Floyd's resume Vs Paul Williams resume ? who will have the better legacy?

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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #11
    Originally posted by AKATheMack
    Floyds resume takes a dump on PWills at this point in time. Skills arent comparable either.
    Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!! This Williams fans are delusional

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    • JBell11
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      #12
      Williams is on route to have a better resume

      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
      Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!! This Williams fans are delusional
      Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.

      Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:

      Floyd -
      Marquez - too small
      Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
      DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
      Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
      Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.

      Williams -
      Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
      Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
      Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
      Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.

      Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...
      Last edited by JBell11; 04-23-2010, 12:33 PM.

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      • mrgreenfingers
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        #13
        Originally posted by JBell11
        Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.

        Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:

        Floyd -
        Marquez - too small
        Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
        DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
        Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
        Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.

        Williams -
        Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
        Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
        Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
        Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.
        Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...
        Floyd

        Marquez - No.2 P4P, floyd coming off a 21 month break, a good warm up against a name opponent, it was meant to bulid to a pac fight

        Hatton - Undefeated, highly rated opponent at the time, fighting at a more comfortable weight for hatton, many people thought he could win at the time

        De la Hoya - Fought him at 154, again another comfortable weight for oscar, past prime but still dangerous as you said many thought he could win

        Baldomir- yes limited opponent but everyone was questioning why he wasnt facing the guy who beat judah, i rememeber brian kenny blasting floyd for this so he did and beat him

        Judah - this was already organised before he fought baldo, he went through with it anyway still a good fight against a dangerous opponent

        Williams

        Martinez - good fighter although many thought he lost, including me.

        Wright - coming off a huge lay off while well into his 30s, a shell of his former self

        Kolle- yes

        Quintana - Someone who schooled him for a full 12 rounds before, fair enough he won in one round in the rematch, but we didnt really get to see if he could deal with him over the distance. A 12 round schooling is always more impresssive than an one punch fight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by JBell11
          Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.

          Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:

          Floyd -
          Marquez - too small
          Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
          DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
          Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
          Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.

          Williams -
          Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
          Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
          Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
          Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.

          Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...
          If Floyd gets no credit for beating people an inch or less shorter than him, Williams shouldn't get credit for beating anyone. Williams is almost thirty, and doesn't seem to be head into ATG land. If he wants to go there, he should pick a weight class, clean it out, move up and repeat.

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          • MurderDeathKill
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            #15
            Williams has a long way to go before he's anywhere near Floyd's status. he's good and can go far but Floyd is an ATG. Williams is just getting started.

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            • JBell11
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              #16
              Originally posted by -GDS-
              If Floyd gets no credit for beating people an inch or less shorter than him, Williams shouldn't get credit for beating anyone. Williams is almost thirty, and doesn't seem to be head into ATG land. If he wants to go there, he should pick a weight class, clean it out, move up and repeat.
              Fair enough...Williams shouldn't pick on guys shorter than him, but he does make weight, which is the requirement. Furthermore, Floyd shouldn't go into a fight heavier than a fighter who was already smaller to begin with.

              ATG??? Didn't say he was...all I said was his resume continues to get better.
              With that being said...he will possibly one day become a HOF.

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                #17
                Prime Martinez
                Prime Margarito

                Are great wins for Paul.

                Floyd still has the better resume.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by magatte
                  You are going to get fire for this. But I see your point a bit here:

                  PWill's Scalp list:

                  ATGs
                  • Margarito
                  • Sergio Martinez
                  • Winky Wright


                  Contenders
                  • Cintron - (to come next)
                  • Quintana


                  Veterans
                  • Verno Philips
                  • Sharmba Mitchell



                  This is probably beeter than Floys. As I don't see Floyd beating the first three names on the list.
                  Is that a joke? Do you really believe that? ATG's huh............

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                    #19
                    As leader of this Paul Williams movement. I dont approve of this thread. Next time consult me first.

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                    • JBell11
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      Prime Martinez
                      Prime Margarito

                      Are great wins for Paul.

                      Floyd still has the better resume.
                      What up burner,

                      I agree that Floyd overall has a "better" resume. His battles with Gatti, Castillo, Corrales etc... How about @ WW?

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