Floyd's resume Vs Paul Williams resume ? who will have the better legacy?
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Williams is on route to have a better resume
Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.
Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:
Floyd -
Marquez - too small
Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.
Williams -
Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.
Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...Last edited by JBell11; 04-23-2010, 12:33 PM.Comment
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Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.
Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:
Floyd -
Marquez - too small
Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.
Williams -
Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...
Marquez - No.2 P4P, floyd coming off a 21 month break, a good warm up against a name opponent, it was meant to bulid to a pac fight
Hatton - Undefeated, highly rated opponent at the time, fighting at a more comfortable weight for hatton, many people thought he could win at the time
De la Hoya - Fought him at 154, again another comfortable weight for oscar, past prime but still dangerous as you said many thought he could win
Baldomir- yes limited opponent but everyone was questioning why he wasnt facing the guy who beat judah, i rememeber brian kenny blasting floyd for this so he did and beat him
Judah - this was already organised before he fought baldo, he went through with it anyway still a good fight against a dangerous opponent
Williams
Martinez - good fighter although many thought he lost, including me.
Wright - coming off a huge lay off while well into his 30s, a shell of his former self
Kolle- yes
Quintana - Someone who schooled him for a full 12 rounds before, fair enough he won in one round in the rematch, but we didnt really get to see if he could deal with him over the distance. A 12 round schooling is always more impresssive than an one punch fight.Comment
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Paul Williams may still be rough around the edges, but he did beat some quality opposition. So far the aforementioned list is pretty impressive for a resume. Which is the point of the thread. Better resume.
Now if someone wants to make comparison to Floyd, one can very well argue that P-Will's last five fights are better quality opposition than Floyds last five:
Floyd -
Marquez - too small
Hatton - Cake walk for FLoyd...personally I always thought HAtton was limited.
DLH - past his prime (in floyd's defense, I thought, at the time, DLH would win)
Baldomir - Lumbering...Floyd beat him with one hand (literally) Imagine what Floyd could do with two.
Judah - I'll give Floyd this one. It was a good idea at the time.
Williams -
Martinez - Beat Citron, and no one ever wanted any part of him; he was another fighter dubbed "most avoided"
Wright - another fighter dubbed "Most avoided"
Kolle - Ok...this was a filler lol
Quintana - Good sound boxer with movement had one on Williams already.
Here is the kicker...they both fought Sharmba Mitchell...Floyd pooped on Mitchell in 6 rounds while WIlliams did it in 4. Sharmba in his own right is a decent fighter. Now I know people are not going to agree with this..but consider this, Floyd is entering his last phase of his career. Whereas, Williams is just getting started, and fighting anyone and everyone who signs to fight. Whether the decisions he receives are controversal, or if he loses you can't deny that the guy has fought pretty good opposition so far. I didn't even mention Margarito in the mix...it just wouldn't be fair...Comment
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Williams has a long way to go before he's anywhere near Floyd's status. he's good and can go far but Floyd is an ATG. Williams is just getting started.Comment
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If Floyd gets no credit for beating people an inch or less shorter than him, Williams shouldn't get credit for beating anyone. Williams is almost thirty, and doesn't seem to be head into ATG land. If he wants to go there, he should pick a weight class, clean it out, move up and repeat.
ATG??? Didn't say he was...all I said was his resume continues to get better.
With that being said...he will possibly one day become a HOF.Comment
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You are going to get fire for this. But I see your point a bit here:
PWill's Scalp list:
ATGs- Margarito
- Sergio Martinez
- Winky Wright
Contenders- Cintron - (to come next)
- Quintana
Veterans- Verno Philips
- Sharmba Mitchell
This is probably beeter than Floys. As I don't see Floyd beating the first three names on the list.Comment
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As leader of this Paul Williams movement. I dont approve of this thread. Next time consult me first.
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