Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Mosley Public Divide Explained in Cinema

[big_james10]

That's a nice Floyd-fan spin of things, but you're missing the point of the articles.

He didn't go by statistics and surely the fact that Mosley went up two weight-divisions to fight a prime-Delahoya earns you more credit than moving up one-weight division to fight a past his prime inactive Delahoya.

How much credit does one earn by forcing an over-the-hill De La Hoya to drain himself down to a weight he hasn't fought at in four years?

[SkillspayBills]

Seriously, this is probably the best article I have ever read on this site. McAvoy and Simms comparisons where spot on and well thought out. Absolutely fantastic. Of course there are some disputable things, like Marg being considered the most dangerous man when Floyd fought Baldo and who was actually angry Floyd fought Oscar the first time? I don't know anyone who was against the first bout other than the regular haters, but that is neither here nor there. It's still a great article.

[P.WILL]

I tried finishing the whole thing but all the golf references made it impossible. I'll try again.

[mrjoeblive]

This article is so white washed.It fails to mention the fact that Mosley ducked Floyd for years,People claimed that Floyd was ducking Hatton (even though Hatton is the one that was ducking Floyd) And when Hatton decides to fight Floyd then the the Floyd haters started saying "oh floyd is taking on a fighter smaller then him" even though Floyd started his career at a lower weight class then Hatton.


The reason Floyd vs Margarito did`nt happen was because of money.Floyd was willing to accept the 8 million dollars for Margarito if Arum would have guaranteed him 20 million for a fight with Delahoya and 10 million for Cotto and 10 million for Hatton.





And this Article fails to mention that most of Pacquiao big wins was against fighters who were weight drained and/or pass their prime and Pacquiao ducked dangerous opponents such as Mosley,Tim Bradley,Nate Campbell,juan Guzman.


The writer of this article is extremely bias and writes like a *******.

good post, this writer left out several facts about both fighters. he comes across as a big critic of floyd

[LeeGee1128]

The golf references were inserted for this reason -- to make sure that the fabric of the article remains unified from beginning to end. I know it's a chore for boxing fans to wade through golf stuff -- I'm sympathetic because I'm a boxing fan just like you all are -- but there is a method to my madness. Some of you think I'm just mad, but that goes with the territory. :-)

Lee

[mrjoeblive]

That's a nice Floyd-fan spin of things, but you're missing the point of the articles.

He didn't go by statistics and surely the fact that Mosley went up two weight-divisions to fight a prime-Delahoya earns you more credit than moving up one-weight division to fight a past his prime inactive Delahoya.

Just saying. Either way he put both points of views in this article as he quoted the overall message from both Floyd supporters and critics, so chill.

By the way, good read.

except floyd wanted to fight oscar years earlier but was avoided as a brash up and comer. he wanted to fight shane too but shane avoided him to fight dlh a second time. and avoided him after that

[titan_1987]

are u referring to this site...last time i checked, this site didn't reflect the whole entire world. Just face it...the author feels a certain way toward floyd and tried desperatley to cover it and failed.

It is, what it is...an op-ed piece of literature that i felt was bias and i showed you why it was bias. Why don't u present somethign that suggests it isn't

I honestly think that Mosley is more liked than Floyd... in the whole world actually. Floyd, with all his talk and actions in and out of the ring, might have alienated a lot of fans..

There are a lot who would pay to watch Floyd hoping that he would lose in the ring. Floyd with all his trash talk is able to garner lots of attention, either good or bad. That's what he does. And after the fight, he usually does a 360 turn and becomes respectful towards his opponent. And that part is usually omitted by the media and spectators alike. They would rather think of Floyd as the bad guy than the good guy.

That's how the media tries to portray him and that's the character Floyd tries to be in his 24/7.

If you'd ask casual boxing fans around who's the good and bad guy between the two, most would definitely say Floyd's the latter

[titan_1987]

excellent read by the way, props to the author. I think the article was fair enough between the 2 fighters.

[Drive Slow]

Glad to see that my article has generated so much feedback. What I was attempting to do was to present an article that is fair to both sides. To those who hate Floyd and call him a serial ducker, I point out that there was a time when Mayweather indeed took risks and was on the path to true greatness in the great traditions of the sport. To those who see Mosley as a hero for all time, I say that he is not the perfect hero in that he sometimes took chances that were too risky and that he failed as a result.

As I state in the article, Floyd should be congratulated for taking this fight. But when assessing his entire body of work, the fact that he bypassed the most challenging competition to take fights that would generated him the most money can't be ignored. The fact that he did so is a subject of profound disappointment to those of us who expected a whole lot more from him. It's obvious he has the skill set to achieve anything he sets his mind to, and his performances in certain fights raised our expectations to sky-high levels. The other piece of the puzzle is that we want to see our great champions put those wondrous skills to the ultimate test because that's what all the great champions of the past have done.

No matter what Mayweather does from here on in, that part of his career where he side-stepped the best at 147 will always be there. If he goes on to beat Mosley spectacularly and dominate Pacquiao to establish his pound-for-pound supremacy without question, then he deserves all the kudos that he gets. It will surely elevate his status in history, and deservedly so. At the same time, there will be this cloud of "what could have been."

There's no hate of Floyd here, and I went to great lengths (literally) to be fair to him. There is good and bad and I wanted to present a balanced picture. I think I've done that.

Thanks again for slogging through the 4,000-plus word article. I hope it was worth your time.

Lee

I mean I must say that I like your style of writing in this piece because it allows the reader to follow it and visualize what you are saying. Yet, I can't help but feel that you left out too many important details (like the fact that one of the reasons Floyd didn't fight Margarito is because Arum and Floyd were involved in a lawsuit and Arum still hadn't paid Floyd all his money from the Gatti and Judah fights; he bought out his contract and no longer wanted to do business with Arum so the Margarito fight was a no-go; plus Arum wouldn't guarantee Floyd money fights with Oscar and Cotto because Floyd, according to Arum 'was not a star and couldn't ask for that type of money').

Also, the piece feels like one big back-handed compliment when it talks about Floyd's career path; it's like the article calls him a great/cowardly fighter (well which one is it he can't be both?). You say that Mosley took risks as an explanation to his losses and I say Mosley didn't have the right game plan, couldn't adapt, and in his loss to Forrest he probably took him lightly. Mosley's biggest win(s) comes against a guy he cheated against, and also a guy you say Floyd cherry-picked for money. You also left out the fact that Floyd tried in the past to make fights with Kasta, Cotto, Hatton, Oscar, even Casamayor, and multiple attempts at Mosley only to be ignored or turned down; so I ask you who is ducking who?

In the end, you tell a good story, but one without all the details, and one that is full of half-truths.

[NesNY]

excellent objective journalism...and great insight into next weekend's fight.