Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Mosley Public Divide Explained in Cinema

[b4real]

The article is very well written .... Is it me or does it seems, that these guys some what cringe at the thought of praise Floyd or giving him positive PR....
Just wondering!

[cortdawg25]

i understand what you're saying. However, i feel the author's point is mosley fought a prime de la hoya because he presented the biggest challenge in addition to the monetary reward any fighter reaps from fighting oscar. Mayweather fought an older, non-prime de la hoya (de la hoya was a two to one underdog in the fight against mayweather) for the money at 154 lbs when there were bigger challenges and greater risks at 147lbs. Mayweather bypassed fights at 147 to fight an aging fighter (oscar) at 154 and then retired. When he came back he continued to bypass the best at the time (margarito,cotto,etc...) and instead chose to fight ricky hatton.

bottom line is mosley moved up 2 weight classes to fight a prime, challenging fighter (de la hoya) who was favored to beat him and then continued to fight boxers others avoided and who had physical advantages over him (vernon forrest, winky wright). Mayweather moved up to fight a non-prime fighter (de la hoya), retired, came back and moved down in weight and still avoided the most challenging fights out there for him (cotto/margarito, etc...)

mayweather has impressed me by agreeing to fight mosley (who is still a threat) and hopefully he will continue to fight challenging fights after this (paul williams, pacquiao if they can agree to terms and other young, prime fighters like bradley, alexander, etc...). If he fights opposition like this and continues to win then he'd definitely be considered an atg.

ok...then we just differ on the opinion of the author cause i don't see margarito being a bigger threat than oscar.

So with that said, the author did show bias in favoring mosley decision to fight oscar in comparison to floyd's decision, correct?

Cause fact is, they both moved up in weight to fight oscar and beat him.

[cortdawg25]

the article is very well written .... Is it me or does it seems, that these guys some what cringe at the thought of praise floyd or giving him positive pr....
Just wondering!

i think they do cringe...u almost have to pull a compliment out of them or they'll blanket it with criticism like this author did.

[cortdawg25]

i understand what you're saying. However, i feel the author's point is mosley fought a prime de la hoya because he presented the biggest challenge in addition to the monetary reward any fighter reaps from fighting oscar. Mayweather fought an older, non-prime de la hoya (de la hoya was a two to one underdog in the fight against mayweather) for the money at 154 lbs when there were bigger challenges and greater risks at 147lbs. Mayweather bypassed fights at 147 to fight an aging fighter (oscar) at 154 and then retired. When he came back he continued to bypass the best at the time (margarito,cotto,etc...) and instead chose to fight ricky hatton.

bottom line is mosley moved up 2 weight classes to fight a prime, challenging fighter (de la hoya) who was favored to beat him and then continued to fight boxers others avoided and who had physical advantages over him (vernon forrest, winky wright). Mayweather moved up to fight a non-prime fighter (de la hoya), retired, came back and moved down in weight and still avoided the most challenging fights out there for him (cotto/margarito, etc...)

mayweather has impressed me by agreeing to fight mosley (who is still a threat) and hopefully he will continue to fight challenging fights after this (paul williams, pacquiao if they can agree to terms and other young, prime fighters like bradley, alexander, etc...). If he fights opposition like this and continues to win then he'd definitely be considered an atg.

i noticed u also mentioned favored over mosley, but that wouldn't aplly to floyd because he would be favored over all
current boxers then and now.


Another point, at the time of the oscar fight...cotto wasn't a real option or even foreseen as real threat. He didn't become a serious threat til after the mosley win.

[b4real]

i think they do cringe...u almost have to pull a compliment out of them or they'll blanket it with criticism like this author did.

What is so sad , most fans and critics who hate Floyd don't hate him..... It's just the popular thing to do, so sheeple just follow the media Shepard .... If they would just watch him fight and not be biased they will get there money worth... His defense is like watching the old Kung Fu movies, where the hero dodges every kick and punch of ten dudes lol....

[Tweezy316]

i'm not reading all that ish!!

[DeLaHatManMos]

HAHAHAHA! Tweezy had the best post!
I'm wit cha.

[LeeGee1128]

Glad to see that my article has generated so much feedback. What I was attempting to do was to present an article that is fair to both sides. To those who hate Floyd and call him a serial ducker, I point out that there was a time when Mayweather indeed took risks and was on the path to true greatness in the great traditions of the sport. To those who see Mosley as a hero for all time, I say that he is not the perfect hero in that he sometimes took chances that were too risky and that he failed as a result.

As I state in the article, Floyd should be congratulated for taking this fight. But when assessing his entire body of work, the fact that he bypassed the most challenging competition to take fights that would generated him the most money can't be ignored. The fact that he did so is a subject of profound disappointment to those of us who expected a whole lot more from him. It's obvious he has the skill set to achieve anything he sets his mind to, and his performances in certain fights raised our expectations to sky-high levels. The other piece of the puzzle is that we want to see our great champions put those wondrous skills to the ultimate test because that's what all the great champions of the past have done.

No matter what Mayweather does from here on in, that part of his career where he side-stepped the best at 147 will always be there. If he goes on to beat Mosley spectacularly and dominate Pacquiao to establish his pound-for-pound supremacy without question, then he deserves all the kudos that he gets. It will surely elevate his status in history, and deservedly so. At the same time, there will be this cloud of "what could have been."

There's no hate of Floyd here, and I went to great lengths (literally) to be fair to him. There is good and bad and I wanted to present a balanced picture. I think I've done that.

Thanks again for slogging through the 4,000-plus word article. I hope it was worth your time.

Lee

[cortdawg25]

Glad to see that my article has generated so much feedback. What I was attempting to do was to present an article that is fair to both sides. To those who hate Floyd and call him a serial ducker, I point out that there was a time when Mayweather indeed took risks and was on the path to true greatness in the great traditions of the sport. To those who see Mosley as a hero for all time, I say that he is not the perfect hero in that he sometimes took chances that were too risky and that he failed as a result.

As I state in the article, Floyd should be congratulated for taking this fight. But when assessing his entire body of work, the fact that he bypassed the most challenging competition to take fights that would generated him the most money can't be ignored. The fact that he did so is a subject of profound disappointment to those of us who expected a whole lot more from him. It's obvious he has the skill set to achieve anything he sets his mind to, and his performances in certain fights raised our expectations to sky-high levels. The other piece of the puzzle is that we want to see our great champions put those wondrous skills to the ultimate test because that's what all the great champions of the past have done.

No matter what Mayweather does from here on in, that part of his career where he side-stepped the best at 147 will always be there. If he goes on to beat Mosley spectacularly and dominate Pacquiao to establish his pound-for-pound supremacy without question, then he deserves all the kudos that he gets. It will surely elevate his status in history, and deservedly so. At the same time, there will be this cloud of "what could have been."

There's no hate of Floyd here, and I went to great lengths (literally) to be fair to him. There is good and bad and I wanted to present a balanced picture. I think I've done that.

Thanks again for slogging through the 4,000-plus word article. I hope it was worth your time.

Lee

“the fact that he bypassed the most challenging competition to take fights that would generated him the most money can't be ignored. The fact that he did so is a subject of profound disappointment to those of us who expected a whole lot more from him.”
This whole statement is no fact but an opinion. The statement that “part of his career where he side-stepped the best at 147 will always be there” is an opinion, your opinion and far from a fact.
Some of us have differing opinions than yours and the true facts is that he faced and defeated 2 welterweight champions in consecutive fights ( 1 linear and the other the former undisputed champ) and then chased the money in Oscar and Hatton. Those are the facts!

[badboy125]

lets face it were 8 days away from a good fight