Emanuel Steward - heavyweight division is the weakest that I ever saw it

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  • Pirao
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    #31
    Originally posted by boxingp4p
    didnt i just say i agreed with most of what steward said ? i was just pointing out that you were picking and choosing points in the article by pointing out that steward said that wlad would be an atg in 2/3 years if he continues dominating but ignoring the fact that he said that the division was the weakest he had ever seen it , so does dominating a weak division make you an atg ?
    I'm not nitpicking, I have answered you with the Louis' example, didn't Joe Louis, who is an ATG, dominate a weak division ("bum of the month club")? What about Larry Holmes? So, according to Steward, yes it would make him an ATG.

    You have said you agree with MOST of what Steward has said. That means you don't agree with ALL of what Steward has said. Tell me, what are the parts you don't agree with?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Soir
      WHen Steward says brutally truthful things like "This era is the weakest ever, and that Wlad is not an ATG" I tend to believe it because he is risking his job security by going against his employer. He has nothing to gain by saying these things except for self-integrity.

      When he says positive things like Wlad would knock Haye in 4, I feel that he is trying to balance things out as to not piss of Wlad. Or maybe he really means it, who knows?

      Basically he get gets paid to be pro- Klitschko, doesnt get **** for telling the truth. SO I tend to belive the negative things.


      Good article.
      Great post.

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      • D-MiZe
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        #33
        That'll change in a few years.

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          #34
          Originally posted by $partacus
          Since when do people ever agree about everything? Do you agree with everything Steward says in this interview?
          Nope, that's why I don't go around picking his opinions to make my point. I'm pointing the hipocrisy of people who do it: they only pick the parts that fit their agenda and discard the rest, which is what you're doing. More proof (like if we needed it) that Haye nuthuggers are full of ****.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Soir
            WHen Steward says brutally truthful things like "This era is the weakest ever, and that Wlad is not an ATG" I tend to believe it because he is risking his job security by going against his employer. He has nothing to gain by saying these things except for self-integrity.

            When he says positive things like Wlad would knock Haye in 4, I feel that he is trying to balance things out as to not piss of Wlad. Or maybe he really means it, who knows?

            Basically he get gets paid to be pro- Klitschko, doesnt get **** for telling the truth. SO I tend to belive the negative things.


            Good article.
            Translation. "I'm a Haye nuthugger that, like TS, will only agree with Steward's opinions when they fit my agenda"

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            • dans
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              #36
              Look for a lot of Wlad and Vitali fans to turn on Emanuel for these comments.

              The man they once thought was the most sensible, will all the sudden become a bumbling idiot.

              Tunney comes to mind here. I've heard him say things about how the heavyweight division is very good right now etc. When we all know it is weak.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Soir
                WHen Steward says brutally truthful things like "This era is the weakest ever, and that Wlad is not an ATG" I tend to believe it because he is risking his job security by going against his employer. He has nothing to gain by saying these things except for self-integrity.

                When he says positive things like Wlad would knock Haye in 4, I feel that he is trying to balance things out as to not piss of Wlad. Or maybe he really means it, who knows?

                Basically he get gets paid to be pro- Klitschko, doesnt get **** for telling the truth. SO I tend to belive the negative things.


                Good article.
                Either learn how to read or taking off your Klit hating glasses before you start reading because not once did Emanuel say that Wlad is not an all time great.

                Show me 1 quote where he said "I think Wlad is not an all time great."

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                  #38
                  In what year did this interview happen ?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tourlou82
                    In what year did this interview happen ?
                    It was posted today.

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                    • Konstantin
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                      #40
                      Not only did he not say Wlad wasnt an all time great, but here is his argument for the Heavyweight division being the weakest:

                      "I think it’s worse now because you don’t have anything coming from the amateurs. That’s what troubles me."

                      So he is saying it's weak b/c there are no good amatures.

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