If Oscar gave Floyd a hard time, what makes you think Mosley won't?

[V.WEBB]

dlh had the win to be real but he did what he always do & that's stop fighting. Even fms said his son lost. With that being said the new floyd won't beat shane. That 20 punches a round will get him dragged

They were still at each other's neck then...

[check hook]

dlh had the win to be real but he did what he always do & that's stop fighting. Even fms said his son lost. With that being said the new floyd won't beat shane. That 20 punches a round will get him dragged

so your using that as a basis for thinking it was close. ***** please Oscar lost 6 of the first seven rds......at what point did he stop throwing the jab and losing. His father said that as they had not spoken a word to each other for nine years and been on bad terms. It was Oscar who supplied Sr with a ticket to the fight......and just FYI Oscar and Sr had a very good working relationship when Oscar was getting trained by Sr......Sr obviously cared about Oscar alot......this is obvious if you see how elated he was after ODLH KO'd Vargas. C'mon use some sense man!!!!!!

The fight with Oscar was not close...........

[tacoboxer]

Floyd won a SD against (lets face it) a past his prime DLH. I hear *****s say floyd is gonna dominate and floyd is gonna KO mosley... that's some ole bull****. Thing is, Mosley has always been a better athlete than dlh and mosley is in better shape than DLH was when DLH fought floyd.

I don't see floyd dominating or KOing mosley. its gonna be a SD either way.

People are gonna say DLH has a jab. Well, like ****m say, you can't say mosley gotta do this or that because mosley brings his own problems to the table. mosley don't have to fight like dlh. And mosley at his best is enough to beat floyd. but mosley at his worst would lose to floyd, just like a floyd with 2 broken hands and a messed up shoulder would lose to mosley.

some of you mofos need to get your head out your asses

Fair enough... all valid points.

And agreed... its exhausting hearing from "Floyd Fans" OR "Shane Fans" when they spew who is going to do what to whom.

The best discussions are from "Boxing Fans" who understand the facts.....

No question DLH gave Floyd trouble (I had him ahead 5-3 through 8 rounds.... not for cleaner punches landed but for effective aggression AND because Floyd was choosing not to engage enough.... Oscar was taking the fight to Floyd through 8 rounds and was deserving of getting the benefit of the doubt from judges to that point). From the 9th on Oscar got away from the jab, was less active and we know the rest.

However, if Cotto outboxed Mosley whos to say Mayweather couldnt come out and fight behind his jab and do the same? Is Floyd not capable of that? Is a fight plan like that beyond his abilities?

I'm not saying he will but if you look at all potential scenarios.... that is a possibility.

If Floyd didn't learn his lesson against Oscar that choosing not to engage and giving up the early rounds is a recipe for disaster..... he is bound to repeat it and you will see the biggest fit Floyd has ever thrown crying foul about the scoring and judging....

Which in my opinion as one who appreciates his abilities...... wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for Floyd.

[Counter Punch]

A hard time?

Hard time?

TS was one of the judges who scored the fight.

[Don Crusto.]

Floyd won a SD against (lets face it) a past his prime DLH. I hear *****s say floyd is gonna dominate and floyd is gonna KO mosley... that's some ole bull****. Thing is, Mosley has always been a better athlete than dlh and mosley is in better shape than DLH was when DLH fought floyd.

I don't see floyd dominating or KOing mosley. its gonna be a SD either way.

People are gonna say DLH has a jab. Well, like ****m say, you can't say mosley gotta do this or that because mosley brings his own problems to the table. mosley don't have to fight like dlh. And mosley at his best is enough to beat floyd. but mosley at his worst would lose to floyd, just like a floyd with 2 broken hands and a messed up shoulder would lose to mosley.

some of you mofos need to get your head out your asses

His age,inactivity,and all the wear and tear of his long career tells me Floyd wont have too much trouble. I hope I am wrong,but fighters go into serious decline after 35. Floyd wins this at a canter.

[oaklandstephen]

mayweather vs de la hoya really wasnt close. the only reason it was scored like that is because everyone wanted oscar to win.

[BoxerDood]

dlh had the win to be real but he did what he always do & that's stop fighting. Even fms said his son lost. With that being said the new floyd won't beat shane. That 20 punches a round will get him dragged

Why does everyone think he blew it for himself? Its not that he stopped throwing the jab. Its that Floyd neutralized it with his own.

And Floyd Sr and Floyd Jr hated eachother back then. Floyd Sr was also DLH's trainer for a long time, so of course he's gonna take his side.

[tacoboxer]

so your using that as a basis for thinking it was close. ***** please Oscar lost 6 of the first seven rds......at what point did he stop throwing the jab and losing. His father said that as they had not spoken a word to each other for nine years and been on bad terms. It was Oscar who supplied Sr with a ticket to the fight......and just FYI Oscar and Sr had a very good working relationship when Oscar was getting trained by Sr......Sr obviously cared about Oscar alot......this is obvious if you see how elated he was after ODLH KO'd Vargas. C'mon use some sense man!!!!!!

The fight with Oscar was not close...........

Forget CompuBox Stats as a basis for making YOUR argument for who wins fights.... the judges are not privy to that information when they are scoring a fight real time so to use those as a basis to say one fighter clearly won the fight is not reasonable.

If rounds 9 thru 12 in the Mayweather v DLH fight played out like the first 8 (and I am making a huge assumption here to make a point.... DLH carrying the fight, staying behind the jab, coming forward and trying to put pressure on Floyd....) its reasonable to see how Oscar could earn 2 of the last 4 rounds accorinding to how the judges saw fit to score that fight, that night. (two judges had it 115-113 and 113-115).

The end result would be a Draw with Mayweather dominating the CompuBox Stats...

Im not disagreeing with you that according to the punch stats it wasn't even close (and I agree with the validity of the stats). However, punches landed is not the only factor used in scoring a fight. If it were.... Floyd would win by a landslide everytime.

Floyd cannot affort to not engage early and give up the early rounds..... plain and simple!

[V.WEBB]

TS was one of the judges who scored the fight.

Yea, he had to be.

[Ringthebell]

dlh had the win to be real but he did what he always do & that's stop fighting. Even fms said his son lost. With that being said the new floyd won't beat shane. That 20 punches a round will get him dragged

FMS also said Pac is on Roids. So, if FMS is credible when dissing his son, why is he not credible for dissing Pac?