~Mayweather and Mosley: The Speed Difference.~

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That's beacuse of this point...



Pacquiao's speed with weird angles vs Floyd's speed but with better timing can be argueable.

Yeah good point. On top of that I think Floyds "one shot" punches are better then Pacs but Pac strings Combos together faster.

[jaskieee]

That was not the same Shane we saw vs Margarito. When he fought Mayorga, he had absolutely no reflexes at all, and his speed was HORRIBLE. It actually looked like Mayorga was matching him in speed LOL It was also at 154, so that could have contributed. Naazim corrected a lot of these problems, but unfortunately his legs were too old to bring back to the way they were years ago.

True, you cant discount the impact of Naazim. Like Brother Naazim pointed out we can sit here now and say that Margarito was tailor made for Mosley however who was saying that before they fought??

This was the same Antonio Margarito that beat down Miguel Cotto and that Mayweather wasnt willing to fight for 8 million (although he did opt to fight baldomir for the undisputed title instead for a rumoured similar price).

Plaster or not, Margarito simply was not hitting shane.

Man this fight has been building up for so long i change my mind about how its going to go everyday i just want it to be here.

I cant wait for the fallout afterwards either hahahah.

[Tamis!]

Yeah good point. On top of that I think Floyds "one shot" punches are better then Pacs but Pac strings Combos together faster.

No deny.

Examples can be Floyd vs JMM and Pac vs OLDH with those points you made mate.

Prolly only the reach factor will make a defining difference.

[HARLEM AL]

Thats what I said in my post.



Floyd wont have to throw combos vs. Shane to beat him. Just his pot shots are lightning fast ad unpredictable which is why they always land flush the opponent has no idea where they are coming from or going.

In camp they are working on putting punches together but he doesnt need to in order to beat Mosley. Being fast doesnt mean throwing combos. Margarito throws Combos.

I agree. 10 more days and we all could stfu about it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I agree. 10 more days and we all could stfu about it.

Damn 10 days? Man I had no idea it was so close time is flying...Cant wait.

[Tamis!]

Good points from everyone in this thread overall!

I wonder what Brother Naazim has in mind. Coz Floyd being himself is all good to go for a win. Shane needs to hella reinvent himself if he wants to win

[Piper the Great]

imo shane is faster in the hand speed depo. Don't let that pad work fool you. Floyd hasn't shown me nothing through his career that say he is faster than shane.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I agree with you Cotto had good timing in that fight but is like that in most of his fights.hHe does not wast punches if he fires more then likely he'll hit you.I believe Shane had a bad gameplan for that fight.Leading up to it Cotto style was to break you down pressure you always come forward.When he seen shane was not backing off or getting hurt he change his gameplan and started to move away from shane and box a lil more.He won alot of the middle rds on my scorecard with fighting this was.IMO to shanes credit he made changes and began to box a lil more him self and I felt he pulled out the fight with 1 or 2 rds but it was a close fight.As far as May and Shanes hand speed it's tricky I feel May is faster by a few seconds but mosley is fast which is key.Its not about being faster then May it's about being fast enough to hit May which IMO he is.

[Pullcounter]

Watched Cotto vs. Mosley again as I ate breakfast. And I must say Cotto was way faster then him. He beat him to the punch most of the fight. He timed Mosleys punches at will. His jab barely missed and he was snapping Shanes head back all night.

So how do you think the speed difference will be in this fight?

Even
Wide in Floyds favor
Wide in Shanes favor
Very Close in Floyds favor
Very Close in Shanes favor


I ask this because after watching that fight closely. Mosley did not look that fast at all. It wasnt because Cotto is this speed demon it was because Cotto was timing him PERFECTLY. Shane didnt let his hands go that much in fear of getting a crisp counter shot in his face. So in essence Cottos timing and speed made Cotto the faster fighter.

Now vs. Mayweather: Who times fighters better then Floyd? Who is more accurate then Floyd? Who has better reflexes? Who is smarter then Floyd? Then you have Floyds handspeed. Who I still think is faster then Pacquiao. Floyd throws the one punch alot faster then Pac throws his one punch. But Pac strings Combos better. But anyway I think the speed gap will be night and day in this fight. I actually feel Floyd will make Shane look slow. Floyd looks to be in much better shape then in the JMM fight and they are working on combos and handspeed in camp. People say Floyd was rusty vs. JMM Idont see it. I see him carrying extra weight and he was still blazing fast and still had INSANE reflexes.

Heres some hi-lights put together of the JMM fight showing just his reflexes:

The first 2:50 is the JMM-Floyd stuff.

c'mon mang, I already explained this to you. cotto timed mosley and was able to get off first. this made it look like cotto was faster. it's an optical illusion.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

c'mon mang, I already explained this to you. cotto timed mosley and was able to get off first. this made it look like cotto was faster. it's an optical illusion.

Exactly...this is what I said in my post:



"I ask this because after watching that fight closely. Mosley did not look that fast at all. It wasnt because Cotto is this speed demon it was because Cotto was timing him PERFECTLY. Shane didnt let his hands go that much in fear of getting a crisp counter shot in his face. So in essence Cottos timing and speed made Cotto the faster fighter.

Now vs. Mayweather: Who times fighters better then Floyd? Who is more accurate then Floyd? Who has better reflexes? Who is smarter then Floyd?"