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  • #91
    wow is all i could say

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    • #92
      Originally posted by crillz View Post
      that is simply an untrue statement, there have been many crimes in the long history of man that have been 100% solved, the ones that aren't are due to deeper things that doesn't let the truth surface
      Unless you witness something in real life, with your own eyes, then you are always relying on someone else's version of those events. Even a videotaped confession in this case wouldn't satisfy your "100%" requirement because there is always the .000000000000001% chance that someone was off-camera pointing a gun at him making him confess.

      That is why our courts rely on "beyond a reasonable doubt" as the standard of guilt, because 100% doesnt exist, never has, and never will.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by crillz View Post
        He actually also REQUESTED to be with the other inmates and they put him alone anyway, what better way to seperate themselves from view of murdering him than to lock him in a cell all by himself and hanging him away from view? maybe they drugged him? did they check his blood and see what was in him, are they investigating the corpse thoroughly? who's to say they didn't bash him on his head and underneath all that hair there is a gash?

        who's to say he wasn't gonna tell his piece to other people and maybe that is why he wanted to be around others, if he was in fear of a conspiracy the last thing he would want is to be alone in their prison. it's not like he ever once flat out said "I killed my wife", at first that was being said so there may articles saying that but it was revealed after wards that he ONLY said there was a CHANCE he did it and in truth he really didn't know, he stuck to that story and was cut short before he really got to elaborate on it, they shut him up before he could open his mouth and **** a few people over, they even leaked a picture of him freshly dead to even further disrespect him which is awful..
        You are ******

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        • #94
          It all sounds fishy, but I don't believe Valero considering his history.

          Unfortunately, we may never know what really happened, but I think Valero killed her.

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          • #95
            Nobody knows what really happened. But he is being judged by the only person who can judge him. R.I.P. to the deceased.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Lorily View Post
              I get that you're trying to see both sides of the situation here sir. To say that the conspiracy goes to such deep and incredible lengths to kill Valeros wife, set him up, and then according to the same line of thought murder him in his jail cell, however, seems like a stretch of the imagination by maximum proportions. Lets look at the shooting incident of Jennifer... you don't have to be a forensic expert to know the facts don't add up in the reports of the shooting. If she was shot in the thigh (above the knee, obviously) and the bullet came out and landed in the inside of the ankle, the bullet would've had to be going in a downward projection and from somewhere above the angle of a drive-by stance. Factor in the fact that "she also showed an injury on her peroneal muscle, laceration on her throat and cut on her lips", she didn't get those injuries from being shot in the leg.
              Looking at the theory that Valero was murdered in jail, even that seems very unrealistic. Do you know how hard it would be to hang someone? Not just an ordinary man, but a fighter and a beast (inside and outside of the ring) with 27 wins and 27 knock outs. It would have taken multiple men no doubt, they would've had to have taken off his sweat pants and controlled him enough to lift him up to hang him... all while not having any cuts or brusing on him (as evident by the photo of his death) from fighting back. Realistically, if someone was trying to murder him (and taking his PANTS off) he would have fought like a mad man.
              It's always good to see two sides of the story. I just think in this case, what you are saying is just to far fetched to be believable.
              I said this yesterday, his wife was shot on the leg by someone driving a motorcycle, but she had bruises on her lips and neck. I believe Valero beat her, she tried to leave and Valero shot her. This guy had a history of beating his wife and her family has told this numerous times. He was abusive and usually abusers abuse until they kill the victim. Valero killed her and when he realized what he had done, killed himself.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by crillz View Post
                I can only talk for myself when I say this but a thorough investigation would change my opinion, I hear what you saying but I'm not too hard to level with, concrete evidence would make it so there is no other argument but in this case there isn't any, therefore there is an argument..

                we all know Bush is a ****in bastard, he ****ed us all over and the only real reason he wanted Saddam was to avenge his Father. do you know why people say 9/11 was set up and known about all along? because of the structural collapse of the building. the way the airplanes flew into the buildings wasn't enough to bring it down in such a way, there was even a building that went down without being hit man that's a ****in hard pill to swallow..

                this isn't about 9/11 though and if they DO come out with an investigation I'd be the first to say I was wrong with my opinion, there is no pride at stake on here for me I have nothing to gain from this I'm just speaking my opinion, if I'm wrong then **** it I'm wrong but I came up with my own theories based on my own opinions gathered from different facts it's not like I heard what someone else has to say and jumped on their wagon, people can be wrong as I can very well be but people can also be right too, until they PROVE it then there is room enough for me to assume I'm right too
                What a surprise. He is a 911 truther. I bet he is a moon hoaxer, JFK, and New World Order consipiracies guy as well.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Arsekicker View Post
                  What a surprise. He is a 911 truther. I bet he is a moon hoaxer, JFK, and New World Order consipiracies guy as well.
                  nice ad hominem with hints of straw man sprinkled in.

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                  • #99
                    I really feel for the daughter more than anyone else. From having a family to an instant orphan. This shouldn't happen.

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                    • While sleeping, he didn't notice someone stabbed his wife. She didn't screem.

                      Only idiot would believe him.

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