Comments Thread For: Edwin Valero's Final Hours Disclosed By Carabobo Police

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  • rskumm21
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    #81
    Originally posted by crillz
    I can only talk for myself when I say this but a thorough investigation would change my opinion, I hear what you saying but I'm not too hard to level with, concrete evidence would make it so there is no other argument but in this case there isn't any, therefore there is an argument..

    we all know Bush is a ****in bastard, he ****ed us all over and the only real reason he wanted Saddam was to avenge his Father. do you know why people say 9/11 was set up and known about all along? because of the structural collapse of the building. the way the airplanes flew into the buildings wasn't enough to bring it down in such a way, there was even a building that went down without being hit man that's a ****in hard pill to swallow..

    this isn't about 9/11 though and if they DO come out with an investigation I'd be the first to say I was wrong with my opinion, there is no pride at stake on here for me I have nothing to gain from this I'm just speaking my opinion, if I'm wrong then **** it I'm wrong but I came up with my own theories based on my own opinions gathered from different facts it's not like I heard what someone else has to say and jumped on their wagon, people can be wrong as I can very well be but people can also be right too, until they PROVE it then there is room enough for me to assume I'm right too
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    • Fox McCloud
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      #82
      People were coming to rob/kill us, so in order to prepare to defend me and my wife, I got so drunk that I passed out.

      Makes sense...

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      • crillz
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        #83
        Originally posted by cupocity303
        The problem is, you won't except any new evidence that proofs that he did in fact kill his wife. Sure you'll take the evidence that suggests that he is innocent but if they present anything to the contrary, you'll simply dismiss it as a cover up (I.E. they planted the murder weapon in his hand while he was passed out to get his prints). You'll cherry pick any new "evidence", sources, articles that support your agenda.

        Hence why you are a determined conspiracy theorist who won't let this go, no matter what.
        I can see why you would think that from what I been saying, I may have come across as someone who isn't trying to hear anything else but when you are the only one holding a stance in an argument where everyone is trying to downplay it you'll sound that way, I'm defending my reasons to believe it because I just didn't want to seem like no whacko who's saying **** and not supporting it, I'll be the 1st to admit I was wrong if they can PROVE he did it, until they prove it though I have reason to believe this conspiracy because there shouldn't be no reason they can't, it should be easy and if that happens I'll acknowledge I was wrong, I wont cry about it because that's simply just not me, I'm not a person that just "refuses to believe the truth" I just want proof, I don't want 99.9% I want 100%

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        • SluggerFan
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          #84
          If someone is coming to kidnap, rob or perhaps kill you, you don't get drunk off your ass and pass out. You try to sober up and be ready to clobber someone....

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          • Devils Advocate
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            #85
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            WTF, so the guy could be saying the truth? Good god!!!!

            This **** gets weirder by the hour, damn!!
            For real I don't know WTF to believe, Valreo's story eventhough sounds crazy what really is mindboggling is what the police are saying, that he didn't want to be in protective custody b/c he was lonely. Okay so they gave him the option eventhough he killed his wife, WOW I"m staying my black ass out of Venezuela. Kidnappings happen all the time in Mexico and South American coutries.

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            • El 7 Mares V.2
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              #86
              Wasn't there a report like a year back or so that some thugs tried to kill his wife too or something? like a drive-by shooting? honestly I think Valero did all of this because most likely he was bi-polar or suffered schizophrenia, but this report is really bizarre.

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              • OnePunch
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                #87
                Originally posted by crillz
                I can see why you would think that from what I been saying, I may have come across as someone who isn't trying to hear anything else but when you are the only one holding a stance in an argument where everyone is trying to downplay it you'll sound that way, I'm defending my reasons to believe it because I just didn't want to seem like no whacko who's saying **** and not supporting it, I'll be the 1st to admit I was wrong if they can PROVE he did it, until they prove it though I have reason to believe this conspiracy because there shouldn't be no reason they can't, it should be easy and if that happens I'll acknowledge I was wrong, I wont cry about it because that's simply just not me, I'm not a person that just "refuses to believe the truth" I just want proof, I don't want 99.9% I want 100%

                100% doesn't exist in this case (or any other), and never has.

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                • Dambala
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                  #88
                  We''l never know a lot of things about him, how good he really was as a boxer and if he really killed his wife or not, sad story, his like definitely spun out of control.

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                  • crillz
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    100% doesn't exist in this case (or any other), and never has.
                    that is simply an untrue statement, there have been many crimes in the long history of man that have been 100% solved, the ones that aren't are due to deeper things that doesn't let the truth surface

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                    • cupocity303
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by crillz
                      I can see why you would think that from what I been saying, I may have come across as someone who isn't trying to hear anything else but when you are the only one holding a stance in an argument where everyone is trying to downplay it you'll sound that way, I'm defending my reasons to believe it because I just didn't want to seem like no whacko who's saying **** and not supporting it, I'll be the 1st to admit I was wrong if they can PROVE he did it, until they prove it though I have reason to believe this conspiracy because there shouldn't be no reason they can't, it should be easy and if that happens I'll acknowledge I was wrong, I wont cry about it because that's simply just not me, I'm not a person that just "refuses to believe the truth" I just want proof, I don't want 99.9% I want 100%
                      100% proof??? I think it's safe to assume that there wasn't a video camera in the hotel room to record the murder, so we will never actually see who did the stabbing.

                      With that said, what then do you consider 100% evidence if you already hold a predisposed view that the cops/government are corrupt and in on this?

                      What do you consider 100% evidence?
                      Last edited by cupocity303; 04-21-2010, 02:27 PM.

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