Comments Thread For: Edwin Valero's Final Hours Disclosed By Carabobo Police

[leemoorcroft]

must of love xfiles you valero beat his wife alot had a fookin nutter druged up booze down him signs wer there all year sutton bad was on the cards for that fela if he wernt a wife beater and a drugy maybe but this is clear the guy killed her no two ways about it

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Movie

Well maybe we can watch it on a movie soon...Real Story Of EDWIN VALERO.

[KnockoutKings]

I think the fact that he committed suicide pretty much proves that he knew he murdered her (whether accidentally or not) and felt the extreme guilt set in and knew he was a low life scumbag that deserved to die.

After all let's be honest, if someone else killed your wife and you were framed for it, wouldn't you NOT kill yourself just for the chance that you'll be able to contest it in court and prove with evidence that you are innocent and hopefully eventually catch the real perpetrators? Why would you immediately kill yourself within hours afterwards if you knew you were innocent?

Thus, as I said it proves that he knew he was guilty and couldn't live with that guilt.

I don't think its out of this world for him to kill himself IF he was innocent. There are plenty of possibilities. Considering his history and how it all went down, maybe he knew he was going down for the crime regardless. Or maybe he really couldn't live on without his wife. People say he wouldn't let her leave, so maybe when she finally "left", he didn't want to be by himself. The article did say he wanted to jail with the other inmates because he felt lonely and needed to talk to somebody. We may never know the real truth.

[PittyPat]

They'll definitely make a movie of this one day.

[Fistic]

Venezuela - Information pertaining to the final hours of Edwin Valero have been disclosed by the Carabobo Police. Valero was arrested early Sunday morning for the murder of his wife, Jennifer Carolina. Valero took his own life on Monday morning in a jail cell in Carabobo. The head of the CICPC (Office of Scientific, Penal and Criminal Investigations), Wilmer Flores, issued a statement that Valero hung himself using his pants.

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Anyone that has ever blacked out drunk then waking up the next day wondering what the heck happened while you have people coming up to you telling you of the acts that you committed yet you dont remember any of it-- you should know that this is probably what happened to Valero. Cant be 100% sure, but this is the most likely scenario in which this man probably suffering from withdrawal symptoms to whatever drug or drugs he was using, was over compensating with his usual alcohol and then he just blacked out only to wake up and find his wife dead and he couldnt remember anything. Of course he will think its a conspiracy, because sober he probably wouldn't of taken it to that extreme with his wife, but I think he quickly realized that it had to have been him that did it. Or maybe he was high and drinking before he blacked out-- same conclusion. Its truly a sad turn of events. RIP to both of them.

[pinoy24]

Shutter Island 2?

[dans]

This doesn't convince me anything. But it does make me believe there's a chance there's more to the story.

[crillz]

The problem with conspiracies, ESPECIALLY when you mention the US government, is that typically the parties involved are way too incompetent to pull it off. People blab. That's a fact of life. These morons cant even run the tag office, yet people think they are capable of conspiracies on the highest level, like martians at Area 51 and ****.

I'm a HUGE Gatti fan, but I had to accept that he killed himself. Sure, we dont want to believe our heroes would go out like that, but its certainly more plausible than to think his ex-dancer wife was somehow the brilliant mastermind of this big conspiracy, and managed to bribe a foreign government (with no money), all the cops, the coroner, and everyone else involved. I guess they all took an IOU, since she STILL doesnt have Arturo's money yet.

Crooked cops in alot of places? Sure. Crooked DA's? Absolutely. But typically those are small time, small scale operations, involving people who typically dont get reported missing. Big media cases are quite different. You give these people way too much credit.

I think your hat needs another layer of tin foil my friend. The gamma rays the government is beaming into your brain is having a bad effect on your logic........lol j/k

that is exactly why I said they kept it close, it could happen being that the people involved in that government are way more corrupt, the laws and regulations out there are much different than here it is much worse out there, it could even be narrowed down to 2 people as Valero pointed out when he spoke about the man and woman giving his wife su****ious looks, not him but his wife, the same wife who was an attempt murder victim to 2 unidentified people a year prior, see I wouldn't be thinking this if her life wasn't already attempted to be taken and it wasn't like she was walking down the street and caught a stray to the leg, no they drove past her house specifically and shot at her, someone had it in for her already and that fact is just not letting me believe all I'm seeing..

offline I must admit I am the kind of person that will always question something so I understand this perception of my theory may be built off that notion but logically it adds up too, I think about it from the mindset of someone who wanted to set him up, if I know he's always drunk or if he's drunk right now I'm going to wait until he's not on point to get him.. if someone wasn't already after her head I wouldn't think any of anything I have said on here these past few days regarding Valero but even what Valero said was almost too carefully put together, like maybe it's not put together maybe that's what really happened, think about it though did Valero ever say he was full blown guilty? did they find the actual knife? or did they just arrest him, keep him away from everyone, kept him silent, took him to the back at night and offed him?

if he did kill his wife and himself then prove it true genetically, find the weapon and trace the prints and actually have something on him besides him not being sure whether he did it or not and them not even finding a murder weapon, if they can successfully do that I'll drop my thoughts on it but the proof he did it hasn't been established, this is a murder we can't just assume he did it because he's violent and crazy nor because he beat her, if you're trying to be fair on things you'd say just because he's been abusive doesn't mean he killed her nor does it warrant them to just pin the murder on him and not do a full investigation which something tells me they wont do..

[cupocity303]

that is exactly why I said they kept it close, it could happen being that the people involved in that government are way more corrupt, the laws and regulations out there are much different than here it is much worse out there, it could even be narrowed down to 2 people as Valero pointed out when he spoke about the man and woman giving his wife su****ious looks, not him but his wife, the same wife who was an attempt murder victim to 2 unidentified people a year prior, see I wouldn't be thinking this if her life wasn't already attempted to be taken and it wasn't like she was walking down the street and caught a stray to the leg, no they drove past her house specifically and shot at her, someone had it in for her already and that fact is just not letting me believe all I'm seeing..

offline I must admit I am the kind of person that will always question something so I understand this perception of my theory may be built off that notion but logically it adds up too, I think about it from the mindset of someone who wanted to set him up, if I know he's always drunk or if he's drunk right now I'm going to wait until he's not on point to get him.. if someone wasn't already after her head I wouldn't think any of anything I have said on here these past few days regarding Valero but even what Valero said was almost too carefully put together, like maybe it's not put together maybe that's what really happened, think about it though did Valero ever say he was full blown guilty? did they find the actual knife? or did they just arrest him, keep him away from everyone, kept him silent, took him to the back at night and offed him?

if he did kill his wife and himself then prove it true genetically, find the weapon and trace the prints and actually have something on him besides him not being sure whether he did it or not and them not even finding a murder weapon, if they can successfully do that I'll drop my thoughts on it but the proof he did it hasn't been established, this is a murder we can't just assume he did it because he's violent and crazy nor because he beat her, if you're trying to be fair on things you'd say just because he's been abusive doesn't mean he killed her nor does it warrant them to just pin the murder on him and not do a full investigation which something tells me they wont do..

You're the same guy who yesterday was gong on a rant defending Valero, talking about some nonsense about how posters on boxingscene can get drunk too but not kill their wife, just themselves.....blah, whatever that meant.

You are determined to defend/excuse this guy and this new story just added a little extra fuel to your agenda.

[crillz]

Huh? Maybe you're losing the plot to mate.

Joking.

They did put him in with the other inmates. Holding cells aren't closed up little solitary boxes. You can see and talk to other people and normally in a murder investigation you would be put in a separate area to anyone else completely. He was put in the general holding cell though, which is why the other inmates being held were able to call out for help from prison wardens or whoever. A suspected murderer with severe mental problems cannot be put in the same cell with other people though. He was in the same area though and so was able to talk to other guys, which is what he meant. He didn't want to be taken to a holding room by himself but put in the general holding area instead.

They did this for him and that was how he was discovered so quickly. Because the other guys were yelling out for the prison guys to come and help him. He was taken somewhere secret and held by himself.

It's pretty open and **** really. Crazy, delusional, paranoid, drug/alcohol abuse having an episode of paranoia flips out while high and boozed up as a kite, kills his wife, passes out, wakes up later and realises what he has done, calls the cousin first, then later the hotel etc...and after thinking things through and realising exactly what he has done, tops himself too.

I'm not mad at that assessment but I just can't shake the fact that someone already wanted her dead, that and I don't see the proof. everyone just assumes he did it because he was just crazy, also I'm curious to see how the autopsy goes.. I been open about what I think but my thoughts very well can change if they provide the necessary proof required in any case..

They did a half @$$ job on the Gatti case and we are made to believe something that just isn't right in my eyes, it was actually reported that both parties are leaning towards an undetermined case with Gatti in the Real Sports segment. planned murder happens more than you think man and if it's carried out successfully then you'd never know the victims truth..

I just feel like based on who Valero was as a person it isn't hard to set him up for this if you didn't like him and his wife, that's like if I know you have a history and reputation for selling drugs, I plant some **** on you that isn't yours but it's enough to get you life in jail and you get caught with it and sent to jail, you don't know who put it there you just know it isn't yours, imagine the feelings of anger and hopelessness you gonna feel even if you ARE telling the truth, everyone already thinks you're guilty before you even say a word based solely on what you're known for and I don't think this is how things should work, there should always be concrete proof not just assumptions on what you figure he would do but what he DID genetically in the crime scene