Comments Thread For: Edwin Valero's Final Hours Disclosed By Carabobo Police

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  • crillz
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    #51
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    What you're doing is like the guy who catches his girl in the sack with another dude but finds 15 different ways to explain it away.

    You also cant rule out the possibility that Martians were following him around in their UFO, and they killed Jennifer and then Edwin to transport their souls to their home planet to repopulate it before Earth's eventual demise. Does that make it as valid a possibility as your conspiracy theory?

    The most logical theory is typically the correct one 99% of the time. He got wasted, and with his drunken paranoia maybe he thought his wife was a spy, an assassin, or a ***in grizzly bear or something, and he killed her. Then when he sobered up and realized what he had done, he iced himself rather than to face his children.

    If you have a more logical theory, I'd love to hear it....................
    how the **** do you get the bold-ed statement out of anything I said? stop being ignorant and hostile just because I think differently, that's the ****in problem with this place man you can't have a different opinion and not get dogged down for it. I could easily flip it and say that you the type who catches his wife in bed and believes anything she tells you, what is the point in that comment though? pure ignorance..

    it's not so much about what I feel about Edwin Valero but me and my distrust for ANY government including the United States government, I wouldn't hold a conspiracy past anyone because governments are the dirtiest factions, it's never what's right but what you can prove and I'm against the way governments are set up, not the whole notion of a government but the way they are currently running and have been running for years..

    look at the Gatti incident, IMO he was murdered but what is being said? suicide, from who? the Brazilian government, his wife happened to be Brazilian and Gatti was not, they were in Brazil most likely in an area where she may have had family there, there are MANY questions that are left to be asked but they can't be asked now, why? because it was all covered up already, she got off clean already

    there are places in Puerto Rico right now where you can pay off cops and the drug dealers work alongside with cops, you literally say or step in the wrong place and you could get deaded and dumped somewhere and that's in Puerto Rico who is as close as you can get to the USA so imagine Venezuela, I just don't rule out the possibility that someone did him dirty but does it really matter? he's gone anyway you paint it so your whole **** head approach really isn't necessary, I was just stating my opinion..

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    • OnePunch
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      #52
      Originally posted by crillz
      how the **** do you get the bold-ed statement out of anything I said? stop being ignorant and hostile just because I think differently, that's the ****in problem with this place man you can't have a different opinion and not get dogged down for it. I could easily flip it and say that you the type who catches his wife in bed and believes anything she tells you, what is the point in that comment though? pure ignorance..

      it's not so much about what I feel about Edwin Valero but me and my distrust for ANY government including the United States government, I wouldn't hold a conspiracy past anyone because governments are the dirtiest factions, it's never what's right but what you can prove and I'm against the way governments are set up, not the whole notion of a government but the way they are currently running and have been running for years..

      look at the Gatti incident, IMO he was murdered but what is being said? suicide, from who? the Brazilian government, his wife happened to be Brazilian and Gatti was not, they were in Brazil most likely in an area where she may have had family there, there are MANY questions that are left to be asked but they can't be asked now, why? because it was all covered up already, she got off clean already

      there are places in Puerto Rico right now where you can pay off cops and the drug dealers work alongside with cops, you literally say or step in the wrong place and you could get deaded and dumped somewhere and that's in Puerto Rico who is as close as you can get to the USA so imagine Venezuela, I just don't rule out the possibility that someone did him dirty but does it really matter? he's gone anyway you paint it so your whole **** head approach really isn't necessary, I was just stating my opinion..
      The problem with conspiracies, ESPECIALLY when you mention the US government, is that typically the parties involved are way too incompetent to pull it off. People blab. That's a fact of life. These morons cant even run the tag office, yet people think they are capable of conspiracies on the highest level, like martians at Area 51 and ****.

      I'm a HUGE Gatti fan, but I had to accept that he killed himself. Sure, we dont want to believe our heroes would go out like that, but its certainly more plausible than to think his ex-dancer wife was somehow the brilliant mastermind of this big conspiracy, and managed to bribe a foreign government (with no money), all the cops, the coroner, and everyone else involved. I guess they all took an IOU, since she STILL doesnt have Arturo's money yet.

      Crooked cops in alot of places? Sure. Crooked DA's? Absolutely. But typically those are small time, small scale operations, involving people who typically dont get reported missing. Big media cases are quite different. You give these people way too much credit.

      I think your hat needs another layer of tin foil my friend. The gamma rays the government is beaming into your brain is having a bad effect on your logic........lol j/k
      Last edited by OnePunch; 04-21-2010, 04:16 AM.

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      • SoldierWarrior
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        #53
        I think Gatti was murdered, that or the people doing the autopsy in Brazil just fail at their jobs and forgot to test the blood-alcohol level of Gatti. I think Brazil is corrupt and some dirty **** went down, I'd never visit that place ever. Also, I consider the Gatti case completely different then this case. I expect them to do a proper Autopsy in this case and if they don't then I'd suspect something then.

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        • CHACHO
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          #54
          final record stats 27-1-27 cant beat death amigo

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          • ghost deini
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            #55
            Originally posted by crillz
            ..OR.. Maybe that's exactly what they want you to believe, you said "the fact" that he committed suicide but who's to say that's a fact? the Venezuela press? the same press that is basically dictated by that crooked ass government? the same government whom Valero and his wife was in deep with? maybe things went wrong somewhere and they had it in for both of them, could explain why they shot her prior, in this instance they had a chance to pin their murder of Valero's wife on Valero himself and once he took the bait they killed him and fixed it to look like a suicide knowing it wouldn't be hard to accept for the public whom already labeled Valero a monster..

            it took little convincing but where is the murder weapon? where is the full investigation? they probably wont do one now, not because it isn't necessary but because they have already done the dirty work and seemingly it's not necessary because the outcome is "obvious" but there has GOTTA be more to this than is being said by the Venezuela press but how will we ever know? by now any chance to catch any foul play is gone the deed is done and he was just written off but I just can't see it like that, not when his wife was shot before due to someone wanting her dead, it makes too much sense for me
            i agree this is far from an open and shut case

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            • BennyST
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              #56
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              WTF, so the guy could be saying the truth? Good god!!!!

              This **** gets weirder by the hour, damn!!
              No, no, no. He was a delusion, paranoid headcase. That is exactly the type of stuff that goes through your head with that mental illness. You see people following you everywhere, giving you and people you are close to strange looks etc. You think they are talking about you, trying to get you, blah blah blah.

              He was obviously seriously ill in the head man. No one was chasing him and trying to set him up or kill his wife. He probably got so drunk and high he had a blackout, flipped out and killed his poor wife, passed out, wakes up slightly less ****ed up and sees what he did....Might honestly not remember it, but knew he did it anyway and topped himself.

              Awful situation all around.

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              • $partacus
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                #57
                Someone is following us, trying to kidnap us, what should i do? I know i'll get so drunk that i pass out.

                I can't believe that anyone would actually believe that ****.

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                • ghost deini
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by OnePunch

                  Crooked cops in alot of places? Sure. Crooked DA's? Absolutely. But typically those are small time, small scale operations, involving people who typically dont get reported missing. Big media cases are quite different. You give these people way too much credit.
                  i think you're being abit naive

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                  • leemoorcroft
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                    #59
                    cant beleive you got ppl on hear buying some one sneaked into his room and killed his wife wtf is up with ppl on hear the guy wasa a beast in the ring and out couldnt get more scum he use to beat his wife all the time then out of cold blood stabbed her to death then tried to cover it up when he knew wernt getin brought hung himself one sick pup that r i p jen **** you valero you evil ****

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                    • BennyST
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by crillz
                      He actually also REQUESTED to be with the other inmates and they put him alone anyway, what better way to seperate themselves from view of murdering him than to lock him in a cell all by himself and hanging him away from view? maybe they drugged him? did they check his blood and see what was in him, are they investigating the corpse thoroughly? who's to say they didn't bash him on his head and underneath all that hair there is a gash?

                      who's to say he wasn't gonna tell his piece to other people and maybe that is why he wanted to be around others, if he was in fear of a conspiracy the last thing he would want is to be alone in their prison. it's not like he ever once flat out said "I killed my wife", at first that was being said so there may articles saying that but it was revealed after wards that he ONLY said there was a CHANCE he did it and in truth he really didn't know, he stuck to that story and was cut short before he really got to elaborate on it, they shut him up before he could open his mouth and **** a few people over, they even leaked a picture of him freshly dead to even further disrespect him which is awful..
                      Huh? Maybe you're losing the plot to mate.

                      Joking.

                      They did put him in with the other inmates. Holding cells aren't closed up little solitary boxes. You can see and talk to other people and normally in a murder investigation you would be put in a separate area to anyone else completely. He was put in the general holding cell though, which is why the other inmates being held were able to call out for help from prison wardens or whoever. A suspected murderer with severe mental problems cannot be put in the same cell with other people though. He was in the same area though and so was able to talk to other guys, which is what he meant. He didn't want to be taken to a holding room by himself but put in the general holding area instead.

                      They did this for him and that was how he was discovered so quickly. Because the other guys were yelling out for the prison guys to come and help him. He was taken somewhere secret and held by himself.

                      It's pretty open and **** really. Crazy, delusional, paranoid, drug/alcohol abuse having an episode of paranoia flips out while high and boozed up as a kite, kills his wife, passes out, wakes up later and realises what he has done, calls the cousin first, then later the hotel etc...and after thinking things through and realising exactly what he has done, tops himself too.

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