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  • IMDAZED
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    Originally posted by DR.ORGYY View Post
    What dumbass arum should be doing is getting margarito a title at 154 and having pac fight him for it........
    I agree. I love watching paper title bouts.

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  • | THE KING |
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    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    Thats the point. Manny fights whoever THEY put in front of him. Do you think THEY are gonna match him against someone unless THEY think manny can beat them. Manny hasn't moved up and said, OK I'm at 147 give me shane, or I'm at 140 I want Bradley.

    My piont is when floyd does it its one thing when Bob does it on behalf of his fighters its another.
    Well, floyd talks too much and makes himself looks stupid sometimes.. 'cottos is in puerto rico.'.. 'shane aint no draw'.. 'pacquiao is easy work'.

    manny has stated after the clottey fight that he wants floyd but will follow commission rules. manny lets his fist do the talking. No games. Before the cotto fight, everyone was saying cotto was too strong and body shots would knock manny down. What happened? Manny pulled his card midfight and tested cottos power.

    Did you really think Arum knew pacman would demolish de la hoya like that (regardless of the outcome and how he was drained/a bag/(fill in excuse here)? did you really think Arum knew pacman would knock hatton out in 2 or knock cotto down twice and tko him? you really think arum knew pacman would make clottey **** his pants and hide behind his gloves the whole fight? Maybe bob can tell the future?

    It's crazy cause pacman went up multiple divisions cause no one in his weight class can match him.. puts on a show, stays humble (for the most part), doesn't talk mess (besides floyd.. i dont think manny likes floyd at all), and thanks the fans, yet people say he's ducking? c'mon bro.. that's not directed at you btw, just some others in general..

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Originally posted by T.I. View Post
    Pac ducks no one! I thought it was obvious. The man has climbed up division after division. Pacman just fights whoever they put in front of him and he does his 'job'. How in the hell is he ducking? lol! Not referring to anyone in specific. And berto? LOL! He has fast hands, but his foot movement is not that good. Pacman will have a field day with him and possibly get him out of there by the 2-3rd round IMO! He wants to trade and pac would def. welcome that.
    Thats the point. Manny fights whoever THEY put in front of him. Do you think THEY are gonna match him against someone unless THEY think manny can beat them. Manny hasn't moved up and said, OK I'm at 147 give me shane, or I'm at 140 I want Bradley.

    My piont is when floyd does it its one thing when Bob does it on behalf of his fighters its another.

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  • DR.ORGYY
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    What dumbass arum should be doing is getting margarito a title at 154 and having pac fight him for it........

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  • M Deezy
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    fkn arum is a douchebag. doesnt make pac look good at all at times.

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  • | THE KING |
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    Pac ducks no one! I thought it was obvious. The man has climbed up division after division. Pacman just fights whoever they put in front of him and he does his 'job'. How in the hell is he ducking? lol! Not referring to anyone in specific. And berto? LOL! He has fast hands, but his foot movement is not that good. Pacman will have a field day with him and possibly get him out of there by the 2-3rd round IMO! He wants to trade and pac would def. welcome that.
    Last edited by T.I.; 04-20-2010, 03:16 PM.

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Originally posted by Shaktivel View Post
    you don't get it, do you?. what im saying is, pac never ducked anybody like what you want to imply.

    Again, what you quoted was bob's opinion and not pac's. and like what i've said, pac will fight anybody and ducked no one.

    btw, do you think floyd will fight berto for a slave's wage like what he said against campbell?
    I think if Pac answered the questions rather than passing them off to his promoter we would know how he feels. Absent that I can only gather pacs opinions from listening to pacs representative speaking on his behalf.

    I dont think pac is ducking berto. I think its a bad business decision to enter a fight if you are not guaranteed the same or more money than your previous fight. ESPN fans know this as the Winky Wright or Shane Mosley school of boxing.

    No floyd will not fight ANYONE, berto, williams, etc for less than $15 mil. Besides, the slave wage comment was in reference to HBO offering him a 6 fight deal for $1`2 mil when ODh was getting $12 mil per fight. Yes floyd was overstating his value then in a big way.

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  • Shaktivel
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    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    yeah one guy says he won't fight because it doesn't meet his objective- making money. The other guy puts it on his promoter whose job is-making money. Therfore, the promoter says we wont take the fight. Its not what is said or the way it is said. IT IS THE END RESULT THAT MATTERS!

    Besides, don't you have more respect for a man who answers a question honestly than a man who looks to another man to answer for him?
    you don't get it, do you?. what im saying is, pac never ducked anybody like what you want to imply.

    Again, what you quoted was bob's opinion and not pac's. and like what i've said, pac will fight anybody and ducked no one.

    btw, do you think floyd will fight berto for a slave's wage like what he said against campbell?
    Last edited by Shaktivel; 04-20-2010, 03:00 PM.

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Originally posted by brick wall View Post
    why do we always have this kind of stupid posts here? pac is ducking berto because arum said so? pac ducked mosley because roach said so? isn't it more appropriate if pac himself is the one who says he doesn't wanna fight this and that fighter before you claim he is ducking? it just so happened that arum is his promoter and roach is his trainer but whatever these guys say are just their personal opinions. it doesn't represent pac's point of view. nobody has to remember what arum said unless the topic is about arum.
    and why do some floyd fans are fond of saying they are boxing fans and the opposing fighter's fans are not? it's moronic...all of us here are boxing fans, maybe some have been boxing fans longer than the others...more knowledgeable (in boxing) as some would like to point out...so what? are you that weak as a person that you have to consider that as some sort of success or accomplishment and you find the need to brag about it? i don't think boxing as a sport is so complicated. if you're interested in boxing you just watch fights (youtube) and read histories (boxing websites, google, wiki) and voila...a knowledgeable boxing fan. and what do you need to do that? TIME...and lots of it. if you got not much relevant things going on in your daily life outside of this forum you can easily do that.
    I never claimed Pac was ducking. I raised a concern because so many Pac fans write idiotic things about ducking and ***** and gayweather.

    When I read these comments I sense the witer doesn't realize that manny will conduct his business as would any boxer generating superior dollar amounts.

    I do not think evry person who posts is a real boxing fan. So i try to post things that lead to intelligent exchange of opinions then immature bs. I don't know when or where I have ever asserted I am superior to any poster on this site.

    I do feel that when casual manny fans get more exposure to the sport they will see their guy and his people are now making business decisons as opposed to boxing decisions.

    Finally, it is Bob who accuses floyd of ducking. So I pointed out bob's response to a question. Hence the topic was about arum so what he said was relevant.

    And , for the record, I hate Bob for his cheating, manipulative bull**** and hope all fans, especially fans of his fighters, realize this.I don't hate manny or his fans. I just wish they paid less attention to Bob's BS!

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  • brick wall
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    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    Isn't this ducking? Or, is it good business because its high risk no reward. I think Pac beats Berto easy. Apparently, bob doesn't. Is Bob scared? Bob's answer wasn't about win or lose or respect or Berto being an upstanding citizen who deserves a shot it was about money generated. iS paC SCARED OF bERTO?

    Please all Pac fans please make sure you remember this the next time you go on a thread with the "Floyd is ducking" OR ANY OF THE OTHER BULL**** YOU POST.

    Manny is just getting to where floyd has been for over 2 years. As such, he is operating the same way. When Pac fans become boxing fans they will understand this.

    Peace!!
    why do we always have this kind of stupid posts here? pac is ducking berto because arum said so? pac ducked mosley because roach said so? isn't it more appropriate if pac himself is the one who says he doesn't wanna fight this and that fighter before you claim he is ducking? it just so happened that arum is his promoter and roach is his trainer but whatever these guys say are just their personal opinions. it doesn't represent pac's point of view. nobody has to remember what arum said unless the topic is about arum.
    and why do some floyd fans are fond of saying they are boxing fans and the opposing fighter's fans are not? it's moronic...all of us here are boxing fans, maybe some have been boxing fans longer than the others...more knowledgeable (in boxing) as some would like to point out...so what? are you that weak as a person that you have to consider that as some sort of success or accomplishment and you find the need to brag about it? i don't think boxing as a sport is so complicated. if you're interested in boxing you just watch fights (youtube) and read histories (boxing websites, google, wiki) and voila...a knowledgeable boxing fan. and what do you need to do that? TIME...and lots of it. if you got not much relevant things going on in your daily life outside of this forum you can easily do that.

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