PAC Fans Please Ask Bob Arum What is Ducking?

[mrlopez]

Top Rank's Bob Arum told Chris Mannix at SI.com he had "no interest" in matching Berto with Manny Pacquiao. "Berto does nothing for me on a pay-per-view," said Arum

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...aye/index.html

Isn't this ducking? Or, is it good business because its high risk no reward. I think Pac beats Berto easy. Apparently, bob doesn't. Is Bob scared? Bob's answer wasn't about win or lose or respect or Berto being an upstanding citizen who deserves a shot it was about money generated. iS paC SCARED OF bERTO?

Please all Pac fans please make sure you remember this the next time you go on a thread with the "Floyd is ducking" OR ANY OF THE OTHER BULL**** YOU POST.

Manny is just getting to where floyd has been for over 2 years. As such, he is operating the same way. When Pac fans become boxing fans they will understand this.

Peace!!

I think Bobby-Boy knows that Pac is gonna retire soon and wants to milk as much $ as he can until then.

Personally, i think a Berto/Pac fight would be pretty good at least for awhile anyway and it would be awesome for either man to unify titles...but i got Pac TKO10 Berto

[Kagami Taiga]

Who says Marg is low reward? He still has a huge following with the Mexican crowd and that would be a slugfest. and wow, wtf you read that much into my post? where did i mention floyd? Where did i mention principles? where did I say Marg was worthy? stop putting words in other people's mouths.



I don't care for either, however, If i had to choose I'd be slightly more interesting in Marg. He may be too slow but he has alot of size. Berto is nowhere near as durable as Marg IMO nor does he have his work rate. Both guys will play into Pac's style for various reasons but I can see a FOTY style slugfest with Marg and a mid to early KO vs Berto.

Bet lets get real, nobody really wants to see either of these fights. We all want Pac fight PBF/Mosley/JMM (140 or below)/Bradley.

dude...the 2nd paragraph wasnt meant for u...thats why its a separate paragraph. eng 101, man. nyways as far as margs, sure theres money there. but according to many on this forums, the money doesnt matter, its the principle. i was tryin to make a point, i wasnt really attacking you.

relax, i dnt blame pac for none of this, i blame arum. but if pac keeps on letting arum run him to the bank, ill lose respect for the dude.

[The Big Dunn]

The only time Arum mathches his fighters with other fighters is when it makes him good money. But right now he loves how he kept all the money to himself promotional wise with Pac-Cotto and Pac-Clottey, dont expect him to share the wealth until he has absolutely no other choice(refer to Pac-Morales I,II,III). For all we know, we might see Pac-Margarito 5, Pac-Cotto 4, Pac-Clottey 2, Pac-Arce 3.

Equinox:

Please explain this to the Pac fans. Arum is going to match Manny up the same way floyd is going to pick his fights. Manny picks "bigger" "tougher" guys like clottey and cotto because he has a speed advantage and they don't move a lot. Floyd fights "bigger" punchers because they tend to throw punches easily countered. Too Bad b!tch a$$ bob doesn't do the same with Kelly Pavlik or Cotto.

Wait a minute I know why THEY ARE NOT BIG EARNERS!!!!

[Equinox]

The only time Arum mathches his fighters with other fighters is when it makes him good money. But right now he loves how he kept all the money to himself promotional wise with Pac-Cotto and Pac-Clottey, dont expect him to share the wealth until he has absolutely no other choice(refer to Pac-Morales I,II,III). For all we know, we might see Pac-Margarito 5, Pac-Cotto 4, Pac-Clottey 2, Pac-Arce 3.

[The Big Dunn]

no wonder, floyd learned something from arum when it comes to picking who he's gonna fight.

but i don't ever heard pac mention something like the bolded against any possible future opponent.

most likely pac would have said something like this.

pac: i will fight anybody that my promoter (arum) will put infront of me initaym, iniwer.

and floyd,

pbf: im only fighting for money. he [name of boxer] aint ppv fighter. im the cash cow and i ain't fighting somebody for a slave's wage.

See the difference?

yeah one guy says he won't fight because it doesn't meet his objective- making money. The other guy puts it on his promoter whose job is-making money. Therfore, the promoter says we wont take the fight. Its not what is said or the way it is said. IT IS THE END RESULT THAT MATTERS!

Besides, don't you have more respect for a man who answers a question honestly than a man who looks to another man to answer for him?

[madsweeney]

so u go from a low reward fighter whos somewhat worthy to a low reward fighter who's not worthy at all???and what was the reason for refusing the 40mil for the floyd fight again???was it principle??? because we all kno arum has no principles, but pac fighting margs would just prove that he didnt either.

i dnt get how u can say floyd is trying to control pac by making him take a drung test, when u have arum controlling his career like a hawk. its sad really...

Who says Marg is low reward? He still has a huge following with the Mexican crowd and that would be a slugfest. and wow, wtf you read that much into my post? where did i mention floyd? Where did i mention principles? where did I say Marg was worthy? stop putting words in other people's mouths.

I don't wanna see Pacquiao fight Berto or Margarito, but out of the two fighters,Margarito is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too slow for Pacquiao (did anyone watch Pavlik vs Martinez-same ****).Berto has a better chance with his hand speed,but he is still too flat footed...
The only fight that makes sense is the winner of Floyd and Shane...

I don't care for either, however, If i had to choose I'd be slightly more interesting in Marg. He may be too slow but he has alot of size. Berto is nowhere near as durable as Marg IMO nor does he have his work rate. Both guys will play into Pac's style for various reasons but I can see a FOTY style slugfest with Marg and a mid to early KO vs Berto.

Bet lets get real, nobody really wants to see either of these fights. We all want Pac fight PBF/Mosley/JMM (140 or below)/Bradley.

[MurderDeathKill]

Berto needs to rematch Collazo already before he tries to step to the big boys. And Pac is looking at Margarito or the Shane-Floyd winner. Most likely a Floyd fight never happens.

[Biolink]

Pac would beat Berto, but that reason Arum gave doesn't work for me. They fought Josh Clottey on PPV and he doesn't even own a title

[damned1974]

I think after the low PPV's the Clottey fight got Pac isn't willing to do another no-namer immediately after. Even Arum will make less money since its not in house.

Ducking? Not really, avoiding a low reward fight...definately. Berto fight would be a decent fight, however, all hate for Margacheato aside...Marg makes more sense, more crowd pleasing, more fans and he has more of a chance of beating Pac IMO.

I don't wanna see Pacquiao fight Berto or Margarito, but out of the two fighters,Margarito is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too slow for Pacquiao (did anyone watch Pavlik vs Martinez-same ****).Berto has a better chance with his hand speed,but he is still too flat footed...
The only fight that makes sense is the winner of Floyd and Shane...

[Kagami Taiga]

I think after the low PPV's the Clottey fight got Pac isn't willing to do another no-namer immediately after. Even Arum will make less money since its not in house.

Ducking? Not really, avoiding a low reward fight...definately. Berto fight would be a decent fight, however, all hate for Margacheato aside...Marg makes more sense, more crowd pleasing, more fans and he has more of a chance of beating Pac IMO.

so u go from a low reward fighter whos somewhat worthy to a low reward fighter who's not worthy at all???and what was the reason for refusing the 40mil for the floyd fight again???was it principle??? because we all kno arum has no principles, but pac fighting margs would just prove that he didnt either.

i dnt get how u can say floyd is trying to control pac by making him take a drung test, when u have arum controlling his career like a hawk. its sad really...