Mayweather-Marquez Odds => 3:1...Mayweather-Mosley Odds => 4:1. WTF?!

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #31
    Originally posted by daggum
    mayorga is harder to hit than margarito and that's saying something if shane could barely hit him till the 12th. you probably thought roy jones was back after he beat up the punching bag jeff lacy?
    I did not.

    I am just saying, Mayorga isn't exactly known for his elusivity. It's just nuts that Mosley had problems hitting a shot Mayorga.

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    • boxing_pundit85
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      #32
      Originally posted by And Still
      The Odds for Mayweather-Mosley have gotten quite wide and oddsmakers now have Floyd as a prohibitive favourite over the Pomona, CA champion.

      Floyd Mayweather vs Shane Mosley: The Live Underdog Scenario
      By Julius Stecker: First things first, this article is not endorsing that Sugar Shane Mosley is going to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. As Floyd has mentioned in the past, 40 have tried and 40 have failed. This article will merely suggest that the 4 to 1 odds are an invitation to a live underdog bet scenario come May 1st. Put it this way, Mayweather was less of a favorite going into to his fights with Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya. Going into this fight, Floyd Mayweather is definitely the favorite. He brings in a resume of a 5-division titlist along with an excellent undefeated record of 40 and 0. His boxing skills and ring generalship are the standard bearer for the sport today. And he will go down in history as one of the best defensive fighters who ever lived.

      His opponent on May 1st will be Sugar Shane Mosley, (46-5) the current WBA Welterweight Super Champion, and former 3 division champion. He will bring in the best resume of any opponent Floyd will have entered the ring with.(Oscar De La Hoya brought in a great resume as well, but Mosley defeated De La Hoya twice) Mosley will also be the strongest and hardest hitting opponent Mayweather will have faced in his career.. Mosley’s drawbacks in this fight will be his age, 38, and the fact he has not fought in 16 months. Also Mosley has had some trouble with technical boxers in the past. But Mosley is 7 and 1 in his last 8 fights, against excellent competition, and his only loss(Miguel Cotto) was a razor close decision in his opponents back yard, that could have easily been a draw or gone his way. Here are 3 reasons why I believe Shane, at 4 to 1 odds is a very live dog.

      1. Size and Speed

      Floyd Mayweather Jr. will be facing an opponent who will have the size and reach advantage on him. And also he will be facing a guy who can match him in speed. Floyd has been known for a great ability to make mid-fight adjustments in the past, ala Zab Judah and Oscar De La Hoya, but Mosley is not the type of opponent who collapses late in fights. In fact, Mosley has been known to close fights strong. Floyd has better timing then Mosley, but Mosley’s ability to muscle on the inside could prove pivotal in this match-up.

      2. Experience

      Shane Mosley will bring a wealth of experience. It will be only the 2nd time that Floyd will be fighting a fighter with more experience then him on the big stage.(Oscar De La Hoya) Shane has seen all styles, from De La Hoya’s speed and power, to Winky Wright’s southpaw jab, to Vernon Forrest’s length and reach, to Fernando Vargas’s strength. You name it Shane has seen it. While Mosley has never been in the ring with Mayweather, it is safe to say, Mosley has been in with tougher opposition and faced more tests.

      3. Power

      Now I am not hear saying Shane Mosley will knock out Floyd. That is the hardest task in boxing. But Shane Mosley will present something that Floyd has never seen in terms of power. And while Mosley doesn’t have great devastating one punch power, he does punch hard with both hands, to the body and to the head. And his power is relentless for all 12 rounds. He is probably the 1st opponent with an opportunity to hurt Floyd. I am not saying he will, but I am just saying he has the ability to do it. Floyd’s shoulder roll defense usually nullifies his opponents attack, but Mosley ability to punch with both hands will prove pivotal.

      In the end, I don’t know what to make of the 4 to 1 odds. If I were making them, I would say Floyd is a 3 or 2.5 to 1 favorite. Floyd is definitely a better pure boxer then Mosley, but pure boxing doesn’t always win fights. But maybe Vegas and the odd makers know something I don’t. Maybe the rumors are true that Mosley had a tough time early in his training camp, and Floyd has looked better then ever in his. Maybe Mosley’s layoff makes him get old overnight, which could happen at age 38. In the end, Mosley at 4 to 1 odds is a pick that really is a no lose situation. Remember this is Shane Mosley we are talking about, not Zab Judah. Put it this way, if you have 100 bucks laying around that you play with, this may not be a bad wager. If he wins, you win big, if he loses you can chalk up it to a gamble on a live dog that didn’t come through.
      did you watch the cotto fight? bet on him, its really smart like you said. bet agaisnt the guy who hasnt lost.

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      • Ekscape
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        #33
        it's because he was coming off a 2 year lay off... But after seeing what he did to Marquez things have changed

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        • Roy Hobbs
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          #34
          Originally posted by ulises_solis
          this means the hatton and marquez had a bigger possiblity of an upset
          the gamblers are not biased and know mosley is shot
          Originally posted by And Still
          The gamblers DO set the odds by what they think. Because they ultimately bet what they think.
          All true. Las Vegas is Las Vegas because they always win. In terms of big fights Las vegas odds have a absurdly high winning percentage. They usually get their picks right. If they didnt, vegas wouldnt exist.

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          • cooper5
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            #35
            Originally posted by And Still
            The Odds for Mayweather-Mosley have gotten quite wide and oddsmakers now have Floyd as a prohibitive favourite over the Pomona, CA champion.
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            It comes down to the fact that odds makers study fights and with Mosley on the downside of his career and inactive for so long, it would be illogical to make it any closer. It might get closer after the 24-7's run their course. 24-7 is designed to sell the fight and the participants, so even if it was a mismatch, after it's done people will believe it is a competitive match. It is about sells!

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            • Horus
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              #36
              I wonder what odds are really saying..
              That Marquez is a better fighter than Shane?
              That Marquez has a better chance of betting Mayweather than Mosley?
              What are the odds makers saying?

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              • fugu
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                #37
                Reasonable given Floyd was fighting a tuneup after a long layoff.

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                • FLY TY
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Born2Live
                  Shane Mosley was 4/1 when the odds first came out, i was surprised to be fair. Even though I've got Floyd on decision those odds were too good to turn down, i put a fair share of money down also.
                  called a "trap bet." i've offered some of my friends 10 to 1 odds, and they won't bet on mosley. then again, they don't watch boxing as much as i do. to the general public, who follows boxing enough to bet on it, 4-1 odds are just enough to get ppl to bet on shane....it worked for you.

                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                  They will get closer once the fight gets closer. Give it a week we shall see. I would be shocked if they stayed this wide.
                  it'll only get closer, if there's a mad rush of ppl that drop money on shane. it'll probably stay where it is, IMO.

                  Originally posted by DLT
                  The gamblers dont set the odds by what they think. They set it by what the public thinks and they know that in big fights, there will be alot of mainstream people betting and all they know right now is Floyd & Pac
                  true, but depending on how ppl bet, the line changes. even though i consider shane a live underdog, much liver than hatton, oscar, and marquez were, and even tho the odds are 4 to 1, there have been few takers on shane mosley, seemingly....

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                  • DLT
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                    #39
                    again, the mainstream bets alot on these kind of fights and all they know right now is Floyd & Pac. You also have to remember that JMM gave Pac hell twice so alot of mainstream fans took that as JMM is a monster who could beat Floyd if he gave Pac hell. Combined that with him being ranked #2 P4P at the time made the mainstream think he has a better chance than Floyd. If it was just real gamblers or people who know boxing then the odds wouldnt be like this but the mainstream fans & gamblers change odds in big fights like this

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                    • Ravishing
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                      #40
                      Seriously, even if you're a Mayweather fan, I'd put money down on Mosley with those odds.

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