Paul Williams will be #2 P4P if he beats Pavlik-Martinez winner.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Not really. It was a good win but it is what it is Winky was rusty and they both couldnt get fights. Winky is also one of my faves so I know a Prime Winky and that wasnt it.

So Williams deserves to be #2 P4P based on this then??

Beating Winky who you think is a good win(lol).
Beating Margarito who's career has been tainted.
Beating Sergio Martinez who many thought got the wrong decision AND in the wrong weight.
And another so called win against Martinez/Pavilik??

Such standards lol.

[Va_BoriKua]

lol at burner and the ***** iceta yall are hilarioussssssss

[Steelhammer2011]

They arent on anyones top 10 list. Ive checked all of them.

The p4p rankings are a joke. American media favors American boxers.

Wladimir Klitschko >>>>>>>>>> Paul "The Punching Bag" Williams

Vitali Klitschko >>>>>>>>>> Paul "The Punching Bag" Williams

Both Klitschkos should be in the top 10 p4p.

Ring Magazine's Doug Fischer: "The Klitschko Brothers are both in my Top 10 P4P list."

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1755/dougies_monday_mailbag/

I agree with your reasoning. I used to keep heavyweights off my personal P4P but then I thought “Why not include them if they’re worthy?” I think both Klitschko brothers deserve pound-for-pound top-10 inclusion. They’ve got the accomplishments, skill and talent to merit it. I’m not part of the magazine’s decision making process on the ratings, but I do occasionally compile my own P4P top 10 list for the Yahoo! Sports rankings poll that Kevin Iole puts together every few weeks. I missed the deadline for the most recent poll but here’s my list, which I put together before Wladimir beat Chambers (hey, why let it go to waste?):

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Shane Mosley
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Chad Dawson
6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. (tie) Wladimir & Vitali Klitschko
9. Paul Williams
10. Hozumi Hasegawa

So there you have it. I think the K Brothers are in the mix with JM Marquez and P-Will. And note that Cotto and Donaire aren‘t in the top 10.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

So Williams deserves to be #2 P4P based on this then??

Beating Winky who you think is a good win(lol).
Beating Margarito who's career has been tainted.
Beating Sergio Martinez who many thought got the wrong decision AND in the wrong weight.
And another so called win against Martinez/Pavilik??

Such standards lol.

Stop with the revisionists History man.

Williams has been a roll and has beating god fighters. Cintron will be another good win. Then you have the Martinez-Pav winner.

You have to factor in the fighters around him.

[jrosales13]

Some of you guys are insane

ya'll overrate and underrate mofo's like crazy just to fit an agenda....

[jrosales13]

The p4p rankings are a joke. American media favors American boxers.

Wladimir Klitschko >>>>>>>>>> Paul "The Punching Bag" Williams

Vitali Klitschko >>>>>>>>>> Paul "The Punching Bag" Williams

Both Klitschkos should be in the top 10 p4p.

Ring Magazine's Doug Fischer: "The Klitschko Brothers are both in my Top 10 P4P list."

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1755/dougies_monday_mailbag/

I agree with your reasoning. I used to keep heavyweights off my personal P4P but then I thought “Why not include them if they’re worthy?” I think both Klitschko brothers deserve pound-for-pound top-10 inclusion. They’ve got the accomplishments, skill and talent to merit it. I’m not part of the magazine’s decision making process on the ratings, but I do occasionally compile my own P4P top 10 list for the Yahoo! Sports rankings poll that Kevin Iole puts together every few weeks. I missed the deadline for the most recent poll but here’s my list, which I put together before Wladimir beat Chambers (hey, why let it go to waste?):

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Shane Mosley
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Chad Dawson
6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. (tie) Wladimir & Vitali Klitschko
9. Paul Williams
10. Hozumi Hasegawa

So there you have it. I think the K Brothers are in the mix with JM Marquez and P-Will. And note that Cotto and Donaire aren‘t in the top 10.

What does P4P mean?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Some of you guys are insane

ya'll overrate and underrate mofo's like crazy just to fit an agenda....

Alot of publications have him at 4 so its not as far fetched.

[jrosales13]

Alot of publications have him at 4 so its not as far fetched.

I am talking about people not having him in the top 10 is crazy. I think he is close to the top 5 maybe even in the top 5. I think I have him in the top 5 I really haven't made my list.

But, I don't think he will be two though either bro. I have Chad Dawson ahead of him. And, Dawson is fighting a good fighter next too.

And, honestly we don't know what will happen with Pac-Floyd. If they fight there might be an accidental headbutt

Or if there is a winner it might not be decisive enough. Remember the Pac_JMM fight? The Winner and loser remained in the same spot at the top 2.

I think you're jumping the gun with this statement and you're hyperboling it ala Bob Arum.

At the end of the day I don't care what anybody says. Floyd and Pac are the two best fighters right now. Who is the best? Nobody knows, everybody has their own opinion. And, if they do fight the winner will be clearly the best fighter in the World and the loser would be the 2nd best fighter in the World. And, they might remain like that after the fight. Shane Mosley also might get in the argument too if he can pull off the upset.

I think you being a fanatic and biased. You hyping him up and speaking too soon. Because, it will also depend how Paul Williams wins his fights also...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I am talking about people not having him in the top 10 is crazy. I think he is close to the top 5 maybe even in the top 5. I think I have him in the top 5 I really haven't made my list.

But, I don't think he will be two though either bro. I have Chad Dawson ahead of him. And, Dawson is fighting a good fighter next too.

And, honestly we don't know what will happen with Pac-Floyd. If they fight there might be an accidental headbutt

Or if there is a winner it might not be decisive enough. Remember the Pac_JMM fight? The Winner and loser remained in the same spot at the top 2.

I think you're jumping the gun with this statement and you're hyperboling it ala Bob Arum.

At the end of the day I don't care what anybody says. Floyd and Pac are the two best fighters right now. Who is the best? Nobody knows, everybody has their own opinion. And, if they do fight the winner will be clearly the best fighter in the World and the loser would be the 2nd best fighter in the World. And, they might remain like that after the fight. Shane Mosley also might get in the argument too if he can pull off the upset.

I think you being a fanatic and biased. You hyping him up and speaking too soon. Because, it will also depend how Paul Williams wins his fights also...

Ofcourse alot has to transpire but its not impossible. He is slowly making himself a major player in boxing.

[GTL]

You cant make a case for any other fighter.

you have p williams **** so far up your ass its disgusting.. 2? LOLOL