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  • TheGR8TESTOAT
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    #11
    Originally posted by WESS
    I like both Martinez and Pavlik but I see Martinez giving Pavlik trouble with his speed, movement, and southpaw stands. I think if Martinez can **** and school PWill he has a great chance of beating Pavlik by decision.

    Bute is going to murder Miranda.
    when do we get to see the fighter in your avi fight? LOL

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    • Jim Jeffries
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      hm.... didn't see that. but it doesn't matter as miranda fights like a caveman
      True, but Bute's going to need about 20 clean hard shots to stop Miranda. Edison only needs one.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #13
        Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
        True, but Bute's going to need about 20 clean hard shots to stop Miranda. Edison only needs one.
        i don't think miranda is that devastating a puncher, but bute's defense should be enough

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #14
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          i don't think miranda is that devastating a puncher, but bute's defense should be enough
          Abraham might disagree with you.



          A great fighter Miranda is not, but his punching power is not in question. Bute was getting tagged repeatedly by the slow, plodding Andrade, it's not out of the question that Miranda can catch him at some point.

          I think Miranda likes moving forward and needs room to get his punches off with any power. Bute is going to need to fight smart in this one.
          Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 04-16-2010, 01:20 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by AndyShitHot
            So exactly when did Pavlik start throwing as many punches as Paul Williams? People seem to think this fight will be exactly the same as Williams-Martinez apart from the fact Pavlik is a harder puncher. Pavlik and Paul Williams fight nothing alike, Pavlik is slow and plodding and was outworked by a 45 year old Hopkins who Paul Williams would have at least made a fight competitive with just because he throws around 60% more punches than Pavlik. In my opinion Pavlik's only chance in this fight is to knock Martinez out.
            Pavlik doesn't have to throw as many punches as Williams to outwork Martinez. Once Martinez gets a taste of Pavlik's power, the entire fight could change.

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              #16
              Originally posted by johnm
              Pavlik doesn't have to throw as many punches as Williams to outwork Martinez. Once Martinez gets a taste of Pavlik's power, the entire fight could change.
              totally agree, pavliks power will slow martinez down, and pavlik will win by TKO in 11th round

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
                Abraham might disagree with you.



                A great fighter Miranda is not, but his punching power is not in question. Bute was getting tagged repeatedly by the slow, plodding Andrade, it's not out of the question that Miranda can catch him at some point.

                I think Miranda likes moving forward and needs room to get his punches off with any power. Bute is going to need to fight smart in this one.
                AA got his jaw broke, but he wasn't KTFO.

                from what i remember bute only got caught by andrade because he gassed.

                bute should outbox miranda easily. if he puts his punches together, he might stop miranda.

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                • deanrw
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                  #18
                  Miranda has a small outside chance, but I see the fight ending around the 5th-8th round with Miranda getting pummeled.

                  Miranda lost his edge against Pavlik. He took a bad prolonged beating that night and he has not been the same since. He will be dangerous for the first couple rounds, but will soften up quickly.

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                  • Lacrimosa
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by deanrw
                    Miranda has a small outside chance, but I see the fight ending around the 5th-8th round with Miranda getting pummeled.

                    Miranda lost his edge against Pavlik. He took a bad prolonged beating that night and he has not been the same since. He will be dangerous for the first couple rounds, but will soften up quickly.
                    Nothing more to add.

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