why are boxing fans so quick to question a boxers manhood?

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  • pistol whip
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    #11
    Originally posted by maverickuk2
    boxing is a sport made to entertain people, and it has done since records began. if boxers are not entertaining they dont get PPV if they dont get PPV they dont get paid and without any money they dont have a job. but boxing fans are over critical sometimes but other times are just telling the truth.

    The thing is boxing would exist even if there were no fans or money so again I still fail to see how a guy getting fat on his couch has any valid reason to call a mans manhood into question. be critical yes thats just human nature but when people go beyond critical thinkg well thats what gets me.

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    • pistol whip
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      look, what else are you gonna call it when a boxer just gives up in the middle of the fight like ortiz?
      What do you call football, Basketball, Baseball, or hockyplayer when they stop playing in a game when they get hurt.

      This really isn't that hard.

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      • Rushcutters Bay
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        #13
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        Obviously but that doesn't entitle you to it. I think to much pressure is put on boxers to entertain the public. In other sports do you ever here the media/fans say "well that was a great win Kobe Bryan and yes you won another NBA title but would you mind making the game more entertaining oh and we think you are a coward if you don't make it more entertaining".

        But the two sports are so different. Professional sports teams generally receive enough constant support due to the image and label that are ingrained in the people that live in a certain area. Boxers are built on their individual image and performance. They don't come into the game with built in fan bases (unless their big time olympians).

        You also have to pay alot of extra cash to watch fights these days than a laker game. Therefore people are going to naturally expect a better performance and entertainment. Its only human.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #14
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          What do you call football, Basketball, Baseball, or hockyplayer when they stop playing in a game when they get hurt.

          This really isn't that hard.
          yeah, but football, Basketball, Baseball, or hockyplayer don't punch each other in the face for a living. if ortiz doesn't want to get hit in the face, he should go play football, Basketball, Baseball, or hocky.

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          • maverickuk2
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            #15
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            What do you call football, Basketball, Baseball, or hockyplayer when they stop playing in a game when they get hurt.

            This really isn't that hard.
            its probally worse in football, because on international games if you get sent off you take the blame for the whole country. some players get death threats, they need around the clock body gaurds for them and their family.

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            • tesla_power
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              #16
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Obviously but that doesn't entitle you to it. I think to much pressure is put on boxers to entertain the public. In other sports do you ever here the media/fans say "well that was a great win Kobe Bryan and yes you won another NBA title but would you mind making the game more entertaining oh and we think you are a coward if you don't make it more entertaining".
              I really don't understand your stand on this. I'm entitled to being entertained because I pay for it. IMO, the boxing business exist because the public is entertained by it. Otherwise, it would die a slow death.

              Kobe wants to win. Come crunch time, win or loss, I want him to take the last shot. He doesn't need to act any differently or make it a circus shot. He is already entertaining as it is.

              If we relate it to boxing, boxer's can choose on how he wants to win. We, if we like the style of that boxer, don't want him to act any differently because we are already entertained. Bottomline, we choose who we want to watch because it entertains us. If it puts pressure on the fighter, then so be it, but that is a sign of mental weakness. The elites often use this as motivation than a hindrance. Which is why I don't get your point.

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              • pistol whip
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                #17
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                yeah, but football, Basketball, Baseball, or hockyplayer don't punch each other in the face for a living. if ortiz doesn't want to get hit in the face, he should go play football, Basketball, Baseball, or hocky.


                It's not that he doesn't want to get hit in the face it's that he doesn't want to get seriously hurt. He met a fighter that was better than him, he was getting beat up really bad and felt his health was in danger so he simply wanted to stop.


                I never understood this whole go out on your shield thing. Thats something that soldiers say not athletes. And it's that very mindset that is so disgusting about boxing fans and boxing media and it's one of the main reasons why so many boxers die and makes them to brave for their own good.
                Last edited by pistol whip; 04-16-2010, 11:18 AM.

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                • Dynamite76
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                  #18
                  Because, unfortunately, a few give those signs.Like Floyd Mayweather.

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                  • pistol whip
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tesla_power
                    I really don't understand your stand on this. I'm entitled to being entertained because I pay for it. IMO, the boxing business exist because the public is entertained by it. Otherwise, it would die a slow death.
                    No you're not entitled to be entertained your entitled to simply watch a sporting event. I'm sorry but boxing doesn't exists because of fans it exists because the sport itself is violent and people want to see violence so it will always be entertaining but when people expect over the top violence where athletes get killed well that something diffrent. Thats where the disconnect occurs with fans. They forget that these people are athletes who get hurt and very well could die and the sport is dangerous enough without ignorent fans conjering up these fanatical scenerios where boxers are warriors/gladiators who should be willing to die in the ring. Sorry but your 50$ doesn't entitle you to promote a culture of irresponiable athletic events that could cause the death/mental injury of a boxer.

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                    • flexxx145
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                      #20
                      Somebody who never stepped in a ring has no right to denigrate any pro boxer.

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