How good is Sergio? Not as good as Pavlik.

[Holtol]

I think Sergio Martinez is a bit overated considering most people think he beats pavlik on nsb.

Looking at his last fight with Pwill Sergio did good and maybe did enough to get a draw or win. But Quintana gave Pwill more of a boxing lesson then Sergio. Maybe Sergio has a better chin but I would not say he has better out right boxing ablility then Quintana based on the Pwill fight.

The fight against Cintron was another good fight for Sergio. He did enough to win the fight But Cintron had his moments also and won some rounds. The Same Cintron that Margarito demolished twice. Same Margarito that demolished Sergio. And I have seen the fight, Sergio boxed in the same style.

I think Martinez is good but he has been outperformed by other boxer's against the same opponents.


Kelly Pavlik beat Taylor at middle weight, no one has done that. Taylor was winning against Froch and Abraham going in to the 12th round at super middle weight. Pavlik beat Miranda at middle weight no one has done that either. Kelly Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor better then anyone.

Some people will say this does not amount to much because styles make fights. Some of these people are the same people that say Sergio can beat Pavlik because Hopkins a light heavy beat Pavlik. Sergio is not Hopkins lol. Hopkins is way more of a bad a**.

I'm looking forward to the fight I think Pavlik is going to win. I would like to hear some good reasons why Sergio can win this fight.

[RA-Box]

I hear what you're saying and to be honest, I can definitely see Pavlik hurting Martinez, but the PWill fight was Martinez' first at 160. He'll be better prepared this time around.

Watching Pavlik's last fight, Pavlik doesn't look at all invincible.

Martinez just might surprise us all. I like his chances.

[The_Demon]

martinez is very skilled but hes definitly being over-rated in this one

unlike williams,pavlik is a strong tall guy and can use his height if he needs to,whereas williams doesnt,plus he has twice the power

pavlik will take him out late,martinez wins plenty of rounds but it wont be enough

[Holtol]

I hear what you're saying and to be honest, I can definitely see Pavlik hurting Martinez, but the PWill fight was Martinez' first at 160. He'll be better prepared this time around.

Watching Pavlik's last fight, Pavlik doesn't look at all invincible.

Martinez just might surprise us all. I like his chances.

I don't think Martinez or Williams were much over 160 during the fight. I think they were small middle weights I might be wrong though. Yeah Martinez has a chance its not 100% in my mind that Pavlik wins.

[-Lowkey-]

Kelly Pavlik beat Taylor at middle weight, no one has done that. Taylor was winning against Abraham going in to the 12th round at super middle weight.

no he wasnt Abraham was winning that fight clearly going into the 12th.

[Holtol]

no he wasnt Abraham was winning that fight clearly going into the 12th.

I thought the point deduction was bs on the low blow. And I thought Abraham gave up way to many rounds. I thought Taylor was winning. I was not listening to the biased commentators.

[The_Demon]

I thought the point deduction was bs on the low blow. And I thought Abraham gave up way to many rounds. I thought Taylor was winning. I was not listening to the biased commentators.

Taylor was a long way behind,he threw alot of jabs that hit a lot of glove,but that was about it

all the meaningful punches came from AA,taylor didnt throw his right at all

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

I think Sergio Martinez is a bit overated considering most people think he beats pavlik on nsb.

Looking at his last fight with Pwill Sergio did good and maybe did enough to get a draw or win. But Quintana gave Pwill more of a boxing lesson then Sergio. Maybe Sergio has a better chin but I would not say he has better out right boxing ablility then Quintana based on the Pwill fight.

The fight against Cintron was another good fight for Sergio. He did enough to win the fight But Cintron had his moments also and won some rounds. The Same Cintron that Margarito demolished twice. Same Margarito that demolished Sergio. And I have seen the fight, Sergio boxed in the same style.

I think Martinez is good but he has been outperformed by other boxer's against the same opponents.


Kelly Pavlik beat Taylor at middle weight, no one has done that. Taylor was winning against Froch and Abraham going in to the 12th round at super middle weight. Pavlik beat Miranda at middle weight no one has done that either. Kelly Pavlik has beaten Miranda and Taylor better then anyone.

Some people will say this does not amount to much because styles make fights. Some of these people are the same people that say Sergio can beat Pavlik because Hopkins a light heavy beat Pavlik. Sergio is not Hopkins lol. Hopkins is way more of a bad a**.

I'm looking forward to the fight I think Pavlik is going to win. I would like to hear some good reasons why Sergio can win this fight.

I couldnt agree with you more on this one!!!

[Holtol]

Taylor was a long way behind,he threw alot of jabs that hit a lot of glove,but that was about it

all the meaningful punches came from AA,taylor didnt throw his right at all

Could be I may have been seeing that fight the way I wanted to.

[shade darkar]

pavlik is just pure ****e. its got nothing to do with him fighting sergio. pavlik is a novice.