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  • Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
    Floyd will likely simply fight his fight, hell look for an opening and capitolize. I honestly think mosley will do what he always does and thats paw at him with a jab and look to throw something big, over and over and over again. Mosley makes alot of key mistakes, like closing his eyes when he punches, telegraphing his hooks and his overhand rights. Either way if it was someone other than mayweather it wouldnt be that huge. Mosley also squares up alot, its something you see even when hes throwing on a heavy bag.

    You will also see mosleys timing and punch output possibly go down as the fight goes on. Again, mayweather will look for openings, mosley will likely have some mild success early, but mayweathers movement and timing will eventually annoy mosley.

    People keep talking about how heartless and fragile mayweather is but we all know thats bull****, its mosley who has that problem, and if mayweather throws enough straight right hands to offset his timing and if mayweather fights him on the inside and outside and use his footwork to setup counters like i think he is, Mosley is in trouble.

    Truthfully, mosley is just going to have to get lucky, because its not going to be his skill that will win him the fight. The issues mosley has have been there for years and its why he struggles with guys who either have good footwork (cotto) or guys with good jabs (forrest/weight/oscar in the 2nd fight), its his stance and his inability to move his big ass head. Hes there to be hit peroid.
    Great post....People who says he's fragile and heartless are just pure haters. If that was the case, he would of lost to one of the elites he's faced. Fighting with a broken hand and going on to dominate the fight is someone with no heart? Im not buying it for one second.

    I have the up-most respect for Shane and any fighter that steps into the ring (except Margacheato), but a 38 year old fighter doesnt change who he is @ 38. You are who you are at this point in your career. Sure a fighter might come in and try something in the beginning of the fight, but after getting hit a couple times and taken out of rhythm you gradually go back to what is comfortable and who you are. I'll say the same thing about Floyd in 100% agreement with you. Floyd is going to come in and do the same thing he always does. He's going start out slow the first couple rounds, getting a feel for Shane and look for openings. As a huge floyd fan, this drives me insane because I'm like, "Oh ****, this cant be happening!" But then its like someone flips a damn switch and he takes over the fight. He adapts his game to his fighter better than any fighter I have ever seen.

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    • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
      Grus, they'll say anything to discredit PBF. People can not disassociate his personality from his skills which is beyond me. I got mad love for Shane but the Shane of the last 5 years has little to no chance against a well rested, revitalized PBF. We aint talking about some average fighter, we're talking about the real P4P best fighter in the world.
      I'm saying anything to discredit anybody I'm speaking truth(not saying that you are not)I'm not making anything up to benefit my self or my argument.If I don't know something I won't hesitate to ask I've done it before.

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      • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
        Nate Jones, the assistant trainer for Floyd Mayweather Jr., is predicting a knockout win on May 1 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Those who are picking Mayweather to beat Mosley, are picking him to win by decision. Few, if any, are picking Floyd to win the fight with a KO. Jones thinks his fighter can pull it off. [Click Here To Read More]
        hahahahaha

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        • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
          I heard this be said before but never seen any proof of any negotiation.I could be wrong being I never heard of them ever having any real talks.Once again May was fighting longer then Cotto way more experienced was already elite like Hoya and Mosley.So the time for them to fight would have been right after the Hatton and Shane fight's it was set up perfectly but he proved everything he had to prove in the sport of boxing.(The reason I keep saying that is because i was so mad when he said it).I waited all the way for that sham of a fight with Hatton was over for him to retire and not fight Cotto real lame.
          My thing is, when you get a chance to fight a top dawg you take it. Shane get's credit for calling PBF out all of a sudden but where was everybody when Floyd was blatantly calling Shane out on nationwide TV? I think Cotto was smart for not taking the fight but I also think the right time to get Floyd would've been when he was coming up in weight from 135. Any way you look at it Cotto was never in a position to say when the fight should've happened. Real talk is Floyd didn't fight any Top Rank fighters and I know that's not a coincidence.

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          • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
            True never heard Cotto talk about Floyd then again I really never heard Cotto talk about anybody.Hatton at the time when May fought Gatti had damn near 40 fights how many did Cotto have?Oh how many did May have?How many tittles did Cotto have how many did May have?He was green the time for that fight aggggg how many times do I have to say this .I can't believe you can disagree with this?Cotto was more of a complete fighter by this time and more of a name.So the Money was there the Name Recognition was there.But he Proved everything he needed to prove in the sport of Boxing.Come on that's not a lil suspect to you?
            Miguel Cotto was the same Cotto at 140 that he was at 147.
            The only difference is that he took a punch better because he
            could put on more weight. How did Cotto style change since him
            moving up to 147 with Evangelista in his corner? If Cotto would
            have beat Margarito and Oscar, then that Floyd/Cotto fight
            would have happened, like Floyd wanted to make it happen with
            Pac. Fact of the matter is, it wasn't Floyd's job to chase after
            Cotto but for Cotto to chase after Floyd because Floyd was
            Lineal champ and P4P#1. Where was Cotto? I thought in
            Boxing you fight to make it to the top and when your there
            up and comers and fighters with something to prove try to make
            a fight happen with you? Cotto NEVER mentioned Floyd as a
            potential opponent of his, so why should Floyd be tagged with
            he ducked or avoided Cotto? The door swings both ways. Just
            not fair homie.
            Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-15-2010, 01:00 PM. Reason: Correction.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              Miguel Cotto was the same Cotto at 140 that he was at 147.
              The only difference is that he took a punch better because he
              could put on more weight. How did Cotto style change since him
              moving up to 147 with Evangelista in his corner? If Cotto would
              have beat Margarito and Oscar, then that Floyd/Cotto fight
              would have happened, like Floyd wanted to make it happen with
              Pac. Fact of the matter is, it wasn't Floyd's job to chase after
              Cotto but for Cotto to chase after Floyd because Floyd was
              Lineal champ and P4P#1. Where was Cotto? I thought in
              Boxing you fight to make it to the top and when your there
              up and comers and fighters with something to prove try to make
              a fight happen with you? Cotto NEVER mentioned Floyd as a
              potential opponent of his, so why should Floyd be tagged with
              he ducked or avoided Cotto? The door swings both ways. Just
              not fair homie.
              Cotto was very talented, his first fight at welter he made Quintana quit, he was the first to do it. I thought he looked very good early on against Margarito but maybe that has more to do with Margarito being a straight stand-up target, still they should have fought, against Mosley he was skillful.

              I think Mayweather should fight P-Will at some point (and not 3 years from now), now I know everyone who loves Mayweather will say "it's easy work", that doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen. I just want to see how he uses his talent to adapt to a volume punching Octopus.
              Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 04-15-2010, 01:06 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                My thing is, when you get a chance to fight a top dawg you take it. Shane get's credit for calling PBF out all of a sudden but where was everybody when Floyd was blatantly calling Shane out on nationwide TV? I think Cotto was smart for not taking the fight but I also think the right time to get Floyd would've been when he was coming up in weight from 135. Any way you look at it Cotto was never in a position to say when the fight should've happened. Real talk is Floyd didn't fight any Top Rank fighters and I know that's not a coincidence.
                you do not fight a elite fighter when you are clearly not ready that does not make sense.Bottom line he never fought the guy and it was wack that he did not fight him.Oh and money makes Arum run just as much as Mayweather the fight could have been mad.

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                • Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                  I agree with this post except the whole Pac thing.Pac get's alot of credit a lil too much sometimes and he still has somethings to prove and the time is now for all of umm.But other then that great post
                  definitely, people get wowed by his KOs so they get a little carried away with manny's ACTUAL accomplishments. IMO, he still has plenty to prove. he needs to settle in at WW and clean out as much as he can... but he will get NOWHERE if he cant/wont take the tests and move forward. what manny does after the winner of floyd/shane is crucial...

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                    • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                      Cotto was very talented, his first fight at welter he made Quintana quit, he was the first to do it. I thought he looked very good early on against Margarito but maybe that has more to do with Margarito being a straight stand-up target, still they should have fought. I think Mayweather should fight P-Will, now I know everyone who loves Mayweather will say "it's easy work", that doesn't mean that it shouldn't happen. I just want to see how he uses his talent to adapt to an volume punching Octopus.
                      I want to see Mayweather fight, PERIOD. Doesn't matter if it is
                      Cotto/Williams/Berto, just as long as Floyd gives us some fights
                      against top fighters. My point is Cotto fight not happening wasn't
                      all on Floyd because if you go back, Arum hid Cotto from Floyd.

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