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  • Oasis_Lad
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    #11
    Originally posted by Clegg
    My memory failed me for a minute there-would it be unfair of me to blame it on the drink?
    After any Dirrell fight, you just want to forget.

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    • Scary
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      #12
      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
      Well if a judge can be fooled then how can you say with certainty that Dirrell didn't fake his slip?

      You either believe that slips are never intentional, or you believe that you can fake a slip, in which case you'd have to concede the possibility that Dirrell may have done so.
      Because if you look closely at the Dirrell slip in the 11th round, you can clearly see that the floor is wet and his boot slides. It's impossible to slide rubber on rubber unless you got a liquid of some form. But my point is not whether Dirrell faked or not in that slip, but rather to ask if there are any rules about it or if it's an overseen part of boxing.

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      • ThePunchingBag
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        #13
        Originally posted by Scary
        Because if you look closely at the Dirrell slip in the 11th round, you can clearly see that the floor is wet and his boot slides. It's impossible to slide rubber on rubber unless you got a liquid of some form. But my point is not whether Dirrell faked or not in that slip, but rather to ask if there are any rules about it or if it's an overseen part of boxing.
        You just answered your own question.

        You can't slip unless there is liquid involved and therefore if a fighter slips than it is a problem with moisture in the ring and is not the result of faking or taking a dive for the judges.

        So why regulate it if it's an external issue that is easily fixed with a dry towel?

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        • Holtol
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          #14
          I have never seen a point deducted for slipping . It was definitely effecting the Froch fight. I don't think it impacted the Abraham fight much though. I think if someone is constantly going down to avoid fighting on the inside like in the Froch fight there should be points deducted. Its a tough call to make though.
          Last edited by Holtol; 04-14-2010, 05:10 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
            You just answered your own question.

            You can't slip unless there is liquid involved and therefore if a fighter slips than it is a problem with moisture in the ring and is not the result of faking or taking a dive for the judges.

            So why regulate it if it's an external issue that is easily fixed with a dry towel?
            I don't think it is as black and white as you want it to be. There are so many different ways to slip and fall. Against Froch I believe some of the slips was intentional, but it might just be Dirrell who is a lot off balance.
            I bet you could make it look like a wet slip, even though it wasn't. I can't even see how you can try to argue against that.

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            • hammerhiem
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              #16
              He "slipped" about 9 times in the Froch fight too.

              maybe he just has bad balance or slippery footware.

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              • Vasyl’s dad
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                #17
                Dirrell just "slips" punches,

                literally.

                It even won him a fight.


                In cases where it keeps happening,

                there should be a point taken away, especially when its always the same fighter, doing it fight after fight.

                Just like they do with the mouthpiece "falling out", ala Frietas, and then Chico,


                sometimes, it is on purpose.

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                • TBear
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                  #18
                  It is the advertising logo's and the water in the fighter's corners.
                  I seen the referee in a fight smear pepsi on the logo's before to make them sticky. Add to that all the sweat, and corner water in the ring and you have a slipery ring. The worst I ever seen was Gerrie Coetzee vs. "Big" John Tate for the WBA title. The whole ring was slipery and the fighters slid around for the whole fight. It was like fighting on an ice rink.

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                  • BattlingNelson
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
                    You just answered your own question.

                    You can't slip unless there is liquid involved and therefore if a fighter slips than it is a problem with moisture in the ring and is not the result of faking or taking a dive for the judges.

                    So why regulate it if it's an external issue that is easily fixed with a dry towel?
                    Then why is it only Dirrell 'slipping' all over the place all the time and NEVER his opponent?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      Then why is it only Dirrell 'slipping' all over the place all the time and NEVER his opponent?

                      Exactly.

                      Its because other fighters don't use it as a part of their game plan.

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