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  • #51
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    "There's no way that you can tell me that Vitali's top wins at Heavyweight (260lb Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald) are any better than Toney's wins over Holyfield and Ruiz."

    Are you serious? Corrie Sanders alone is more dangerous than an old Holyfield and Ruiz fighting together in some kind of handicap match. As for Larry Donald, he just decisively beat Holyfield so there goes that comparison. Kirk Johnson? Yeah he came to fight in terrible shape but that's his problem. He's still one of the most talented heavyweights in the last few years and Vitali still took him on (not knowing he'd show up fat) and knocked his ass out.

    So far Toney has beaten a shot Holy and an absolute clown in Ruiz. He signed to fight McCline but injured himself and managed to get out of it. Vitali on the other hand has challenged and held his own against Lennox Lewis (and was even winning at the time of the stoppage) the best heavyweight in the last 20 years and has beaten the guys you mentioned.

    There is no comparing their resumes at heavyweight. Vitali's is so much better that you just look foolish attempting to do so. Kicking the living **** out of a fat Kirk Johnson and Corrie Sanders is ten times more impressive than decisioning an out of shape Ruiz and stopping a shot Holyfield.


    I really don't care what you think.

    You just put a positive spin on Johnson, Sanders, and Donald to suit your biased take. You are entitled to feel however you want, but don't act like it's gosple.

    Those are Vitali's top 3 wins, and there's no way they're any more credible wins than Toney's destruction of Holyfield, or his outpointing Ruiz.

    Vitali has never beat an A class fighter at Heavyweight, and I'm tired of hearing the song and dance about Corrie Sanders being He Man, or having "so much potential". He was a 40 year old out of shape golfer when he fought Vitali.

    Vitali is very unproven at Heavyweight having lost the two biggest fights of his career and boasting a handfull of wins over B level fighters.

    He's talking in that interview like he's undisputed, and you're twisting his resume to back that notion up.

    There are many people that don't buy it.

    He's one of 4 title holders in the weakest point in the history of the division, and has much left to prove.

    I'm not asking you to agree with that, but don't tell me it's foolish to think othewise.

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    • #52
      Vitali, Toney and his manager see only two problems before this fight will take place: financial and recognition of James’ greatness.
      What does this mean? Recognition of Toney's 'Greatness'?

      Recognition by who? For what? How? Why?!

      I dont get it, doee he want VK to say he's great?!

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      • #53
        What is so likeable about Vitali Klitschko ? HE is a tall , Lurch looking heavyweight. He doesnt have character , and I have yet to see him in a superfight. How is he as good as everyone says and he hasnt even had a superfight? True the division ,isnt really strong , but of he was so good he would have unified them belts a long time ago.

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        • #54
          Out of all his fights, Toney (5'9")has never fought anyone over 6'3" while Vitali (6'8") has made a career out of knocking out shorter opponents.

          It's Toney that has to prove he belongs in the ring with Vitali, not the other way around.

          Toney is tough though, in fact so tough, he'll probably take the beating of a lifetime against Vitali on his way to being KO'ed
          Last edited by Torino; 06-08-2005, 12:14 AM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Torino
            Out of all his fights, Toney's(5'9") never fought anyone over 6'3" while Vitali (6'8") has made a career out of knocking out smaller opponents.

            It's Toney that has to prove he belongs in the ring with Vitali, not the other way around.
            Beating Holyfield and Ruiz showed that Toney at the very least deserves to be in the same ring.

            Again, Vitali is a title holder, not an undisputed champion.

            If Danny Williams proved he belonged in the ring with Vitali by beating a washed up Mike Tyson, surely Toney (who brutally beat down and stopped a washed up Holyfield and bettered John Ruiz) deserves the distinction.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Bozo_no_no
              Beating Holyfield and Ruiz showed that Toney at the very least deserves to be in the same ring.
              Not without the juice!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Torino
                Not without the juice!
                Don't be ignorant.

                Toney's body built up the substance he was busted for as a result of the medication he was taking. With the way his body looked and with his low output (throwing and countering only when necessary) it was obvious he wasn't purposly taking a gainer.

                Toney was fat and lathargic, and he still exposed the limted Ruiz.

                But even without that win, Toney is the former Ring Cruiserweight Cahmpion, and held titles at 160 and 168.

                Saying Toney doesn't deserve to be in the ring with Vitali when Danny Williams got a crack is ignorant.

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                • #58
                  I think that you are all missing what is really going on here! I don't want to call Toney a coward but it seems to me like he is purposely trying to price himself out of the fight with Vitali. After testing positive, whether intentionally taking roids or not, there is no way any fighter in their right mind would think that they deserve a 50/50 split against any champ!

                  Toney doesn't want to fight Vitali! Period!!!

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by SUPER ZAB FAN
                    What is so likeable about Vitali Klitschko ? HE is a tall , Lurch looking heavyweight. He doesnt have character , and I have yet to see him in a superfight. How is he as good as everyone says and he hasnt even had a superfight? True the division ,isnt really strong , but of he was so good he would have unified them belts a long time ago.
                    how can he unify the belts if Dong King controls the other 3 HW titlists, no way Don King is gonna let anyone of his titleholders fight Klitschko...

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                    • #60
                      not to mention he's only been champ for a little over a year, how was he supposed to unify the titles in that amount of time?

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