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  • #41
    omg ths is dude must be on crack! he said hes more marketable than Vitali and he wants a 50-50 split! Come on now, this dude has had 3 heavyweight fights Booker(who??) Evander (old as dirt) and Ruiz which he couldnt win fairly. And now he has a opportunity to fight for the most prestigeous title out there against the best heavyweight and he doesnt want any part of obviously

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    • #42
      it's pretty funny how these guys keep trash talkin VK, then have issues with the money when it comes time to challenge for the title...they act like it'll be their last fight...

      i think its pretty evident that VK is the center of the attention in the division... in the past year ruiz, byrd, rahman, brewster and toney have all talked about fighting him, but you hardly ever hear about them fighting each other(outside of toney anyways)...

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      • #43
        **** Toney. The main draw is Vitali who is also the belt holder. No one gives a **** about James Toney, except for those who want to see his fat ass get beat.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Kid Achilles
          **** Toney. The main draw is Vitali who is also the belt holder. No one gives a **** about James Toney, except for those who want to see his fat ass get beat.


          Did James insult your family or something?

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          • #45
            hmm

            under the curcumstances in which he used them, plus the way he dominated a current champion, yes he should be allowed to fight for a title.
            Dominated? No. Not at all. Ruiz was in the fight until maybe the last 2-3 rounds. Ruiz was out of shape and both of their performances were not that good. Toney hardly threw any punches and he allowed himself to get clinched more than he said he would.

            He does deserve a 2nd chance though.

            Also, Toney has not greatness at heavyweight. He will not get and does not deserve to get 50%. He is the challenger, period. He is not the draw either, by any stretch of the mind.

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            • #46
              interesting........................

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              • #47
                i don't think that Toney could win this one tho..

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                • #48
                  in my opinion toney could beat any man in the fight game today

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                    Dominated? No. Not at all. Ruiz was in the fight until maybe the last 2-3 rounds. Ruiz was out of shape and both of their performances were not that good. Toney hardly threw any punches and he allowed himself to get clinched more than he said he would.

                    He does deserve a 2nd chance though.

                    Also, Toney has not greatness at heavyweight. He will not get and does not deserve to get 50%. He is the challenger, period. He is not the draw either, by any stretch of the mind.

                    When Toney fought Holyfield, the fight sold 150K PPV

                    When Klitschko fought Williams, it sold 125K.

                    Vitali is not a draw either.

                    And you can slag the "dominated" comment in regards to Ruiz all you want, but he CLEARLY outpointed Ruiz like no one has since Jones. Ruiz beat a lot of Heavyweights, and before losing to Toney had just as much claim to being a Heavyweight Champion as Klitschko did, and Toney (on very short notice and grossly out of shape) CLEARLY beat Ruiz.

                    There's no way that you can tell me that Vitali's top wins at Heavyweight (260lb Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald) are any better than Toney's wins over Holyfield and Ruiz.

                    Toney might not be a bonafied PPV star at Heavyweight, but neiter is Vitali. Toney is certianly not "undeserving" of a shot when Danny Williams got one.

                    Neither of them are large draws, and I don't think Vitali would sell more PPV's fighting anyone outside of Mike Tyson than he would agaisnt James Toney.
                    Last edited by Bozo_no no; 06-07-2005, 10:56 PM.

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                    • #50
                      "There's no way that you can tell me that Vitali's top wins at Heavyweight (260lb Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald) are any better than Toney's wins over Holyfield and Ruiz."

                      Are you serious? Corrie Sanders alone is more dangerous than an old Holyfield and Ruiz fighting together in some kind of handicap match. As for Larry Donald, he just decisively beat Holyfield so there goes that comparison. Kirk Johnson? Yeah he came to fight in terrible shape but that's his problem. He's still one of the most talented heavyweights in the last few years and Vitali still took him on (not knowing he'd show up fat) and knocked his ass out.

                      So far Toney has beaten a shot Holy and an absolute clown in Ruiz. He signed to fight McCline but injured himself and managed to get out of it. Vitali on the other hand has challenged and held his own against Lennox Lewis (and was even winning at the time of the stoppage) the best heavyweight in the last 20 years and has beaten the guys you mentioned.

                      There is no comparing their resumes at heavyweight. Vitali's is so much better that you just look foolish attempting to do so. Kicking the living **** out of a fat Kirk Johnson and Corrie Sanders is ten times more impressive than decisioning an out of shape Ruiz and stopping a shot Holyfield.

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