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    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Call it the “Curse of Junior.”

    Though in-ring accomplishments warrant a far higher dialogue, few boxers of this generation are more polarizing than the famous fighting sons of Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather.

    And try as I might, neither the journalist nor fan in me understands why.

    Of course, I’ve long accepted that exchanges on message boards, etc. will be dominated by the “Roy sux” and “call him Gayweather” crowd, predictably chiming in from the corner of Pathetic and Loser.

    But I’m always a mite disappointed when the illogical naysaying carries over – admittedly in more articulate forms – to my good friends and colleagues in the traditional and online media.

    My only sensible thesis is based on likeability, or in this case a lack thereof.

    Because by numbers alone, denying their preeminence looks pretty ridiculous.

    Love him or loathe, Jones was inarguably virtuoso in his prime – sequentially conquering four weight classes while besting Hall of Famers (Hopkins, Toney, McCallum, Hill), a credible second tier (Tate, Griffin, Johnson, Ruiz) and the requisite less-heralded filler without hiccup from 1993-2003.

    It’s a victims list few of his era can match name for name, and one fewer still could navigate in the one-sided fashion the gifted Pensacolan managed prior to an eyes-closed Antonio Tarver left hook that suddenly ended the run at Mandalay Bay in 2004. [Click Here To Read More]

  • #2
    good read and truth right here...some ppl wont accept it tho unfortunately...

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    • #3
      how does the victory over Marquez count as an elite win, Juan jumped up two weight classes and was a small lightweight as is..... albeit was a sharp performance for someone who'd been out of the ring for so long

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      • #4
        Fitz doesn't account for prime status at all here....and that's the key difference between Jones/Mayweather's and Hopkins/Mosley's opponents.

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        • #5
          Amen!!!!!!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by El Cabron View Post
            how does the victory over Marquez count as an elite win, Juan jumped up two weight classes and was a small lightweight as is..... albeit was a sharp performance for someone who'd been out of the ring for so long
            Floyd win against JMM is nothing. Floyd just put himself in joke level. He should fight his own size and same weigh opponents. And now he is fighting Sugar Shane which he avoided for 10 years. Hahahahaha!

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            • #7
              This author is just trying to get some attention. Plain and simple.

              Mayweather's resume doesn't even come close to Roy, BHop or Mosley's!!! Also, Mayweather disrespects the sport by claiming he is greater than Ali and Ray Robinson!!

              This article makes Boxing Scene look like the National Inquirer of boxing publications.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by El Cabron View Post
                how does the victory over Marquez count as an elite win, Juan jumped up two weight classes and was a small lightweight as is..... albeit was a sharp performance for someone who'd been out of the ring for so long
                Because Marquez was #2 P4P and being avoided by the #1 P4P Manny Pacroid. If Marquez would've won would that mean anything? So why doesn't Floyd's win? If Manny fights Valero and beats him will that mean anything?

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                • #9
                  I could never deny how amazing Roy Jones Jr. was in his prime. I don't think I've ever seen anything close to what he displayed in the ring back then. I'm not a fan of his but I'm in awe of him as a fan of boxing. He's just been such a **** in his twilight years that he's turned off a lot of the public. Couple that with his more frequent failures in the last 5-7 years (terrible in the terrible Matrix 2, terrible rap career, terrible announcer, terrible losses by KO) and you get a public that forgets how special he was at one point.

                  Mayweather is a different beast all together. He's just an unlikable dude (by his own design, I'm sure the guy is quite affable when the cameras are off). Many of us fans are disappointed by how he (VERY safely) has steered his career. For myself, I look at him with disappointment because I see his talent yet, I don't see him exploit it or let it elevate him to something greater. The JMM fight was an example of a guy that was collecting a paycheck. He could have "gone for it" at any point and wowed the fans in a similar way that Roy Jones used to do but he safely let it play out until it went to the cards. You can still be entertaining while you dominate. See: 90's Roy Jones Jr, 80's Tyson et al. Mayweather can't be bothered. Anyone shelling out $50 for his fights has a legitimate gripe.

                  It's not that Mayweather isn't great, he's just disappointing to those of us that recognize how much greater and more interesting he could be IN the ring.

                  (I understand he's 40-0. If you're bringing that up, you're missing the essence of my post. Of course, I don't expect many of you racist, ****phobic mongoloids to understand it anyway.)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TimothyQ View Post
                    I could never deny how amazing Roy Jones Jr. was in his prime. I don't think I've ever seen anything close to what he displayed in the ring back then. I'm not a fan of his but I'm in awe of him as a fan of boxing. He's just been such a **** in his twilight years that he's turned off a lot of the public. Couple that with his more frequent failures in the last 5-7 years (terrible in the terrible Matrix 2, terrible rap career, terrible announcer, terrible losses by KO) and you get a public that forgets how special he was at one point.

                    Mayweather is a different beast all together. He's just an unlikable dude (by his own design, I'm sure the guy is quite affable when the cameras are off). Many of us fans are disappointed by how he (VERY safely) has steered his career. For myself, I look at him with disappointment because I see his talent yet, I don't see him exploit it or let it elevate him to something greater. The JMM fight was an example of a guy that was collecting a paycheck. He could have "gone for it" at any point and wowed the fans in a similar way that Roy Jones used to do but he safely let it play out until it went to the cards. You can still be entertaining while you dominate. See: 90's Roy Jones Jr, 80's Tyson et al. Mayweather can't be bothered. Anyone shelling out $50 for his fights has a legitimate gripe.

                    It's not that Mayweather isn't great, he's just disappointing to those of us that recognize how much greater and more interesting he could be IN the ring.

                    (I understand he's 40-0. If you're bringing that up, you're missing the essence of my post. Of course, I don't expect many of you racist, ****phobic mongoloids to understand it anyway.)
                    u, my friend, just summed up how i feel about may as well. im still hopin he can cement his legacy with his next few fights tho. we'll see...win or lose ill be happy if he fights shane and pac.

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