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  • THE REED
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    #81
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    To be honest, I've always thought this fight was a pick 'em. But I'm thinking workrate. If Shane can force it early on and force Mayweather to play catchup, Floyd is in trouble. The last thing you want to do is to allow Shane to get comfortable. He's so crafty and that power will make Floyd wary. I say split decision because I believe it will be nip and tuck. But the edge has to go to the fighter who has been doing it against elite bigger opponents for much longer.
    I have this feeling that if Shane makes Floyd fight.. I might not work out so well for Shane...

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #82
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      I have this feeling that if Shane makes Floyd fight.. I might not work out so well for Shane...
      Floyd hasn't "fought" in years. Floyd has one two'd his way since Gatti.

      Shane just has to switch it up.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        Floyd hasn't "fought" in years. Floyd has one two'd his way since Gatti.

        Shane just has to switch it up.
        Because it's all he's needed to do.

        Hence the "if shane makes Floyd fight".

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          #84
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          I have this feeling that if Shane makes Floyd fight.. I might not work out so well for Shane...
          I think therein lies the secret to this fight, Reed. Mosley has the longer reach, is fast handed and powerful. Floyd is going to have to be able to muscle him on the inside because it can get very hairy from him on the outside. The key to this fight will be who can win the battle of the jabs--who controls the center of the ring. Whoever is forced to adjust first is in big trouble.

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            #85
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I think therein lies the secret to this fight, Reed. Mosley has the longer reach, is fast handed and powerful. Floyd is going to have to be able to muscle him on the inside because it can get very hairy from him on the outside. The key to this fight will be who can win the battle of the jabs--who controls the center of the ring. Whoever is forced to adjust first is in big trouble.
            When you get to the elite level of a perfected boxing art like Floyd, reach means little to me IMO. Timing and foot movement is much more important than reach. Something Floyd has perfected.

            Mosley is going to need more than his "reach advantage".

            I think one of the biggest problems these fighters have when constructing a plan to beat Floyd, is.... they never think about: "What happens when Floyd throws back".

            All these plans are offensive minded. "How do we get to Floyd?" "How do we hit him?".. And they go in there almost forgetting about the fact that this dude hits back, and he's the most accurate in the entire sport.

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              #86
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              Because it's all he's needed to do.

              Hence the "if shane makes Floyd fight".
              I'm not buying it. People get rusty and that's not something one just turns on in an elite level prizefight. His easy work over the last bunch of years will catch up with him.

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                #87
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I think therein lies the secret to this fight, Reed. Mosley has the longer reach, is fast handed and powerful. Floyd is going to have to be able to muscle him on the inside because it can get very hairy from him on the outside. The key to this fight will be who can win the battle of the jabs--who controls the center of the ring. Whoever is forced to adjust first is in big trouble.

                Problem is Mosley doesnt use his jab that well, But i could see Mosley controlling the centre of the ring.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                  I'm not buying it. People get rusty and that's not something one just turns on in an elite level prizefight. His easy work over the last bunch of years will catch up with him.
                  You don't have to buy anything.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    When you get to the elite level of a perfected boxing art like Floyd, reach means little to me IMO. Timing and foot movement is much more important than reach. Something Floyd has perfected.

                    Mosley is going to need more than his "reach advantage".

                    I think one of the biggest problems these fighters have when constructing a plan to beat Floyd, is.... they never think about: "What happens when Floyd throws back".

                    All these plans are offensive minded. "How do we get to Floyd?" "How do we hit him?".. And they go in there almost forgetting about the fact that this dude hits back, and he's the most accurate in the entire sport.
                    Reed, you really think Naz, Shane, and Bhop haven't thought about this?

                    Also, reach is always a factor if a fighter is an elite talent. Even Roger says the only boxer who can beat Floyd would have to be taller with a deadly jab. See Vernon Forrest v Shane, or Winky V Shane. You think Floyd's timing and footwork would overcome that, but you don't know because he has never tested himself like that.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      Reed, you really think Naz, Shane, and Bhop haven't thought about this?

                      Also, reach is always a factor if a fighter is an elite talent. Even Roger says the only boxer who can beat Floyd would have to be taller with a deadly jab. See Vernon Forrest v Shane, or Winky V Shane. You think Floyd's timing and footwork would overcome that, but you don't know because he has never tested himself like that.
                      Then again, Shane isn't taller, nor does he have a deadly jab.

                      Hence, Floyds timing and foot movement nullify a Mosley reach advantage.

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