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  • THE REED
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    #111
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    Floyd will see all of Shanes punches before he throws them and will counter with beautiful 8 punch combo's. Floyd is such a master that he is able to turn it up to unspeakable work rate levels (even though he hasn't done so in almost 10 years) that he will tire Shane out and outfight him along the way. Shane's experience and style will play right into Floyd's natural advantages. Shane tires out easily and can barely last 10 rounds.

    Shane's physical advantages mean nothing against Floyd because Floyd is such an amazing talent in the ring, that there is no physical advantage that he cannot overcome with his mastery of timing and footwork.

    Because Floyd figured out every fighter he ever fought, he most certainly will do so against a combination of Shane/Naz, and Bhop. Shane will be unable to do anything new in the ring or adjust to anything Floyd does because the trainers do not fight the fights, fighters do. Floyd's next opponent better be Jesus with God as his trainer because that's the only person who can figure out what Floyd's weakness may be.

    Floyd will out jab Shane all day. See the fight with Vernon and Winky. These guys killed Shane with the jab and they are nowhere near as talented as Floyd. Shane also throws wide loping punches. Everything he does is telegraphed. It's a miracle that he has beat a prime DLH, but he hasn't beaten anyone else and has never faced anoyone like Floyd. It doesn'ty matter than Floyd hasn't faced anyone like Shane. It only matters that Shane has never fought anyone like Floyd.

    If Shane tries to pressure Floyd and make him fight, or if Shane tries to box Floyd, he will get destroyed.
    What a waste of time.

    Nobody said anything like that.

    Nobody said Shane will get "destroyed"

    Nobody said Floyd throws 8 punch combinations.

    Nobody said Shane's physical advantages "mean nothing".

    Nobody said Shane will be able to do NOTHING.

    Nobody said Floyd has unspeakable workrate levels.

    Nobody said Shane will tire out, and can only last 10 rounds.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #112
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Yeah, can he do that a strong welterweight, let alone Shane Mosley? HUGE If.
      Agreed. I don't think he can.

      According to Floyd fans Shane won't be able to get close to him. Shane's legs are done and he never ever moves his head. Ever. Plus Floyd's footwork is far too good. As he has shown in his recent fights vs PFP #3 JMM, the beast that is Ricky Hatton, HOF'er and prime ODLH, the wildly talented Zab Judah and lineal champion and the best WW at the time Carlos Baldomir.

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      • Carpe Diem
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        #113
        We don't know how the fight is gonna play out, it's okay to have your predictions. I do know one thing though, reflexes and movement will be the key for this fight.

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          #114
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Oh I agree with you there. Floyd's inside game is better than his outside game IMO. He is truly underrated in that regard. I'll never forget (in the first fight) how Castillo took Floyd into deep waters expecting to drown him. After the 10th round (Castillo looking like he was breaking Floyd down limb by limb), Roger instructed Floyd to get on the inside and FIGHT the man. That 11th round was exquisite. Two great in-fighters going at it. Need to watch that again soon.

          Miguel Cotto has balls - not saying Floyd doesn't but Cotto is willing to take a shot to give one. Floyd isn't. And like I said, Cotto's unnatural strength helped. As far as inactivity...I think Floyd should be worried about rust more than Shane.
          First of all if the first bit about Castillo is sarcasm... Floyd was about 24 years old in that fight, with an obvious injured hand.

          Lets talk about 2010, not 2002.

          Balls or no balls.

          Could Cotto get in range and land on Shane?

          Can Floyd not?

          Sure he has more "balls"...

          Do you not think Floyd will throw ANYTHING?

          Really?

          Floyd will just stand there scared out of his mind for 12 rounds and throw nothing? Because this is what I am gathering from you..

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            #115
            Originally posted by Walt Liquor
            Agreed. I don't think he can.

            According to Floyd fans Shane won't be able to get close to him. Shane's legs are done and he never ever moves his head. Ever. Plus Floyd's footwork is far too good. As he has shown in his recent fights vs PFP #3 JMM, the beast that is Ricky Hatton, HOF'er and prime ODLH, the wildly talented Zab Judah and lineal champion and the best WW at the time Carlos Baldomir.
            1.2 million on Floyd... right now. BET.


            IMDAZED.

            4 Million on Floyd... Talk is cheap.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #116
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              What a waste of time.

              Nobody said anything like that.

              Nobody said Shane will get "destroyed"

              Nobody said Floyd throws 8 punch combinations.

              Nobody said Shane's physical advantages "mean nothing".

              Nobody said Shane will be able to do NOTHING.

              Nobody said Floyd has unspeakable workrate levels.

              Nobody said Shane will tire out, and can only last 10 rounds.
              Exaggerations of points made in this thread. Most are points made in the last 3-4 pages. All are claims made about Floyd that are no based on anything he has done in a long time and things said about Shane that are untrue.


              You said that the physical advantages mean nothing (not in those exact words).

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              • THE REED
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                #117
                Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                Exaggerations of points made in this thread. Most are points made in the last 3-4 pages. All are claims made about Floyd that are no based on anything he has done in a long time and things said about Shane that are untrue.


                You said that the physical advantages mean nothing (not in those exact words).
                I said Mosleys reach advantage won't.

                Nothing about his strength or size.

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                • Walt Liquor
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  1.2 million on Floyd... right now. BET.


                  IMDAZED.

                  4 Million on Floyd... Talk is cheap.
                  see my bet thread.

                  I have 2 current bets on Mosley that are about 40% on my money. If I bet you, 1.2 that's all my money (more than all of it considering 350k are already bet on that fight) but it's one half of one percent of your money. who's the one putting their money where their mouth is?

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                    First of all if the first bit about Castillo is sarcasm... Floyd was about 24 years old in that fight, with an obvious injured hand.

                    Lets talk about 2010, not 2002.

                    Balls or no balls.

                    Could Cotto get in range and land on Shane?

                    Can Floyd not?

                    Sure he has more "balls"...

                    Do you not think Floyd will throw ANYTHING?

                    Really?

                    Floyd will just stand there scared out of his mind for 12 rounds and throw nothing? Because this is what I am gathering from you..
                    No...it wasn't sarcasm at all. With that in mind, go back and read what I said.

                    Second, that's quite a leap from Cotto was willing to take and give. Floyd won't be as willing. That's all I'm saying. I'm picking Shane by SD not KO lol. You know what? Everyone should watch the Baldomir fight again. Then keep in mind that the only thing Baldomir brought to the table was size.

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                    • V.WEBB
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      1.2 million on Floyd... right now. BET.


                      IMDAZED.

                      4 Million on Floyd... Talk is cheap.
                      Reed is about his e-paper.

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