Oscar or Roy: Which one needs to retire badly?

[jabsRstiff]

Well...they should both retire.
They are ****** rich, & have accomplished all that they can.

Roy needs to leave because he has been horrificly KO'd twice.
Oscar needs to leave before he himself begins to suffer the same fate.

The problem ? What made these guys as excellent as they were, is what will make them fight beyond their best.....DRIVING EGOS.

[Dr Cynical]

Well...they should both retire.
They are ****** rich, & have accomplished all that they can.

Roy needs to leave because he has been horrificly KO'd twice.
Oscar needs to leave before he himself begins to suffer the same fate.

The problem ? What made these guys as excellent as they were, is what will make them fight beyond their best.....DRIVING EGOS.

DLH can still do well in boxing.
RJJ is nothing now and should leave.

Holyfield is driven by his ego too.
He's got nothing but he insists on boxing anyway.
He's ruining his record by losing to people like Ruiz and Toney.

I wonder what will happen to Bowe now that he's back.
Perhaps he can have a match with Toney to settle once and for all who is the bigger eater in the heavyweight division.

[jabsRstiff]

Holyfield is ruining his record by losing like he is. But, we all know how great he was, when he was in his prime.
His standing, historically, is intact

Can you imagine what Holyfield (Gatti, too) will be like in ten years ?
His brain will be MUSH.

[Dr Cynical]

Holyfield is ruining his record by losing like he is. But, we all know how great he was, when he was in his prime.
His standing, historically, is intact

Can you imagine what Holyfield (Gatti, too) will be like in ten years ?
His brain will be MUSH.

So you don't think that his recent losses will affect boxing fans' view on him?

Gatti and Morales and pretty much every light guy that fights in "wars" will be like that later on in life.
They can't take that punishment for so long and expect nothing to happen.

[jabsRstiff]

So you don't think that his recent losses will affect boxing fans' view on him?"

Only the view that he is a stubborn fool.
But, real fans know what he accomplished. They know how specil he was over a long period of time.

[J !]

Gotta agree there Jabs, once the loss has been processed, and the dust has settled then his legacy and history will be confirmed as an all time great.


It happens great fighters have to lose sometime or have a dodgy perfromance to let them know its time to go.

I just hope RJJ doesnt stay on and ruin it by trying to do what his head thinks he can but his body longer is able.


For the record Ive never liked him, always been a fan of the antehero in hopkins, BUT one cannot deny what a great special and wonderful fighter RJJ has been.

Those who say he has been "exposed" or trying to belittle his achievements dont understand boxing well enough to see past their own bias..

[JaNnO]

Gotta agree there Jabs, once the loss has been processed, and the dust has settled then his legacy and history will be confirmed as an all time great.


It happens great fighters have to lose sometime or have a dodgy perfromance to let them know its time to go.

I just hope RJJ doesnt stay on and ruin it by trying to do what his head thinks he can but his body longer is able.


For the record Ive never liked him, always been a fan of the antehero in hopkins, BUT one cannot deny what a great special and wonderful fighter RJJ has been.

Those who say he has been "exposed" or trying to belittle his achievements dont understand boxing well enough to see past their own bias..

after i saw the two fights last saturday. there's no doubt in my mind that rjj has no option but to retire. he looked so old and the fire wasn't there anymore. he was a completely different jones jr. that we saw even a year ago. i guess when tarver knocked him out cold last may, he lost every ounce of confidence he got in his heart.

delahoya on another hand, has at leat two years of boxing left in him. the difference between dlh and rjj is that the former is a crowd-pleaser and it seems that everybody loves him. just one win is enough for everybody to forgive him. he lost to hopkins who was obviously the better and stronger fighter because it was a mismatch. dlh imo just quit in rd. 9 to prevent any further damage to his body which was the best thing to do. besides, bhop was comfortably ahead by at least 3-4 rounds on my score card. dlh if he's really smart will not make the same mistake of choosing the wrong opponent again. but who can blame him, $30 million is just too good a mistake to make!!!

[doomeddisciple]

Roy's health seems more at issue than Oscars right now.

Oscar has the option to drop some weight and still be successfull - I don't think Roy has that option.

Both should retire anyway...

[Yarmez]

definately roy, i mean he has not got what he used to have, and he could get hurt for life if he keeps going, i say he should retire, but oscar may have one more megafight left in him

[psychopath]

That's right BOTH. We need new faces, younger, hungrier and smart . . . . smart enough not make any ties with ****I'N Don King or DIRTY Arum.