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  • Pirao
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    #21
    Originally posted by PensionKiller
    I'd say the WBC and WBA are better than the IBF and WBO.

    However, Wlad has mroe belts and should be the one to go for.

    Vitali will beat Haye the more I think of it. Age is not an issue with Vitali, he's a beast.
    The WBA better? You mean the organization that strips their fighters to give the belts to whoever fits their agenda, who has the worst HW rankings, and that is actually a division withing a division since it's always the same guys fighting against each other? I know you are a Haye fan but that statement is ludicrous.

    Plus, Wlad has the RING belt. RING belt>>>Alphabet belts.

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    • maverock
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      #22
      Originally posted by larryx2010
      who didnt see this coming..i knew haye would respond..he aint no *****
      Where did Haye respond? I think it was Adam Booth speaking on Haye's behalf.

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      • $partacus
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        #23
        Originally posted by Pirao
        Yes, Valuev's contract was much better, rematch Valuev and fight the WBA circle-jerk clauses

        Anymore excuses you want to have debunked?
        It was much better because now he's in a position where he can demand a much larger share of purse in the biggest fight the HW division has seen since LL retired. He makes a lot more money down the road he has chosen. Look at how things have changed, Haye was a loud mouthed cruiserweight that the Klitschko's didn't take seriously, now everyone wants to fight him.

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        • Pirao
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          #24
          Originally posted by Six Shooter
          It was much better because now he's in a position where he can demand a much larger share of purse in the biggest fight the HW division has seen since LL retired. He makes a lot more money down the road he has chosen. Look at how things have changed, Haye was a loud mouthed cruiserweight that the Klitschko's didn't take seriously, now everyone wants to fight him.
          If he had beaten the KLitschkos he would be in a much better position that he is now, but it's obvious he didn't think he could actually beat him, so he chose the path of least resistance.

          Anymore excuses?

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          • lfc19titles
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            #25
            I hate all this trash talking between the two sets of fans. look we know they both want to fight each other but for fights to get made you need a good contract for both and free time.

            Haye is in dogs **** at the moment because of that re match clause, he may not have a choice but to fight valuev. they both want to get it on so lets wait and stop theis ****** ducking ****e because we know in our hearts nobody is ducking anyone.

            contracts make fights, if setanta didnt go bust in the uk the fight would have happened but it did go bust and sky offered a ****e deal to haye

            sky tries its best to rip off fighters, look at khan, he is about to go to itv because sky is again messing them about.

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            • maverock
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              #26
              Originally posted by Six Shooter
              now everyone wants to fight him.
              Problem is Haye wants to fight only bums that pose very little risk to him. Haye is benefiting from the situation, he makes millions. What do us boxing fans get? Seeing some loudmouth box 38 year old nobodies in his backyard? Now a Valuev rematch? Give me a break.

              Haye is not a savior of the HW division, he is the cancer of the HW division. Loudmouth fighting old bums and then no follow up. Is this what he meant when he said he was going to save the HW division?

              Haye should fight Wlad or Vitali right now or retire immediately. Nobody needs to see him fight Valuev again or whatever other 40 year old bums he has on his radar screen.
              Last edited by maverock; 04-12-2010, 02:19 PM.

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              • beez721
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                #27
                Originally posted by Six Shooter
                Haye was crazy for signing it, 90% of people on this forum said it was a ridiculous offer. Fight my brother rematch clauses.
                sure according to the reliable haye,,lol. there was nothing wrong with the contract or he wouldnt have signed it. he got scared as the fight got near and panicked

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                • J.R
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                  #28
                  Lets get this **** on, time for a shift in power.

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                  • Tiozzo
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by maverock
                    Of course that is exactly what's going to happen.

                    Does anybody in their right mind think Haye wants to fight Wlad? Haye will keep boxing old bums in the UK on PPV until he retires. He wants no piece of Wlad.

                    Oh and Booth is such an idiot. If they aren't interested in Wlad's belts, then why did Haye sign the contract to fight Wlad last year? Why did Haye keep calling out Wlad for over two years? Just so we now find out that Wlad's belt isn't really what Haye was after.
                    What a bunch of BS.
                    Well... the comment about the belts and the brothers fighting each other is obviously more trash talk than antyhing else.

                    As far as the belts are concerned, it is true that Vitali has the better belt, because of all the history behind it and all the great HW WBC champions. However, Wlad is regarded as the best HW on the planet, so even if he has cheaper belts, he is the man to beat (more than Vitali at least).

                    It's not about belts anymore, it's about beating the best out there, and those are the Klits. So whoever he faces first, it really doesn't matter.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pirao
                      If he had beaten the KLitschkos he would be in a much better position that he is now, but it's obvious he didn't think he could actually beat him, so he chose the path of least resistance.

                      Anymore excuses?
                      Same thing can be said about the Klitschko's rematch clauses, if they were so confident why do they need a fight me/fight my brother rematch clause?

                      He knew that it was a risky fight to take and his career would pretty much be finished if he lost and the Klitschko's offer was for peanuts. When a better offer came along where he can make millions for a few fights before facing the brothers and getting a much bigger share he would have been a fool to turn it down.

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