Comments Thread For: Kelly Pavlik Talks Martinez, Abraham, Paul Williams, BHop

[Clint650]

Pavlik will lay Martinez out cold. Martinez will look quick in the beginning, but as soon as they trade in close, he will get rocked. he was able to recover from Williams shots but Kelly's straight rights down the middle will end this one.


its going to be a good fight while it lasts.

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If Pavlik wants to be considered a great middleweight then beating up on junior middleweights isn't enough. And who knows if he'll be able to even beat Martinez.

[bostonsmarkd]

If Pavlik wants to be considered a great middleweight then beating up on junior middleweights isn't enough. And who knows if he'll be able to even beat Martinez.

So was Hopkins beating on WELTERWEIGHTS (DLH, Trinidad) enough?

[Iceta Lives]

So was Hopkins beating on WELTERWEIGHTS (DLH, Trinidad) enough?

Glen Johnson, Echols, and Keith Holmes were all Welterweights? Bernard's reign will never be touched by Pavlik.

[SoldierWarrior]

If Pavlik wants to be considered a great middleweight then beating up on junior middleweights isn't enough. And who knows if he'll be able to even beat Martinez.

Another hater I see, Martinez fought at 160 against Paul Williams who is a middleweight and Martinez looked great and very very comfortable at 160. Trying to already discredit Pavlik? You're pathetic! You're the same clown who gives Pavlik 0 credit for being the first to stop Miranda in brutal fashion, and taking Taylor's 0 in brutal fashion. Keep discrediting him, see him prove you wrong again.

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Another hater I see, Martinez fought at 160 against Paul Williams who is a middleweight and Martinez looked great and very very comfortable at 160.

It's a step up from the Locketts, Rubios, and Espinos. So I'll give him credit for that. But Martinez has had one single fight at 160. If you think that beating him makes Pavlik a great middleweight than you are an idiot.

[SoldierWarrior]

It's a step up from the Locketts, Rubios, and Espinos. So I'll give him credit for that. But Martinez has had one single fight at 160. If you think that beating him makes Pavlik a great middleweight than you are an idiot.

No, what makes him a great middleweight is the first person to destroy and humiliate both Miranda and Taylor. He was the first to beat Taylor officially. And I don't want to hear this bs that Hopkins was robbed in close fights with Taylor. You know how you don't get robbed in close fights? Do a dominate performance or knock your opponent out.

[SoldierWarrior]

You want to know what else makes him a great Middleweight champion? That before he even became the champion at 160, everyone picked against him. They said he'd lose to Miranda and Taylor, but he didn't and he finished them in dominated fashion. You people can bull**** now, but we all picked against Pavlik when he fought those two. And not just the fans picked against Pavlik, but so did the betting odds. He was not favored to win either of those matches.

Time and time again this guy beats top fighters and never gets full credit for it even when he is the underdog. Hell, I'm not even much of a Pavlik fan but this guy gets screwed constantly by the public. I'm a Calzaghe fan, and you know Calzaghe/Pavlik fans don't get along too well for the most part. Pavlik deserves his props. The only loss on his resume is to a fighter that wasn't even in his weight class.

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Arthur Abraham beat Miranda and Taylor too. You can only milk those victories for so long.

[Brassangel]

Glen Johnson, Echols, and Keith Holmes were all Welterweights? Bernard's reign will never be touched by Pavlik.

Those wins were no better than anything Pavlik or Taylor have done at Middleweight since B-Hop's reign, so that's an irrelevant argument.

Martinez will beat Pavlik - No he won't.
AA would beat Pavlik No he wouldn't; and we wouldn't know until they fight.
Williams would beat Pavlik See: Abraham argument.
Hopkins destroyed Pavlik Yeah...a (Hall of Fame) Hopkins who weighed in on fight night at 188 pounds did a good job of out-boxing a relatively green man who struggled to get up to 170. Real accomplishment.

Arthur Abraham beat Miranda and Taylor too. You can only milk those victories for so long.

AA did it after Pavlik took everything away from them. Seriously. What has either man done since they faced Pavlik? And didn't AA get his jaw broken?