Arthur Abraham beat all the top guys at 160 as the IBF champ

[cleaner147]

Honestly, I dont know about sturm because he never show a desire to pursue the fight, AA on the other hand pursue both Pavlik and sturm but Arum said they would do the AA fight in the future even though AA was on his last days at 160, It seems to me that they were waiting for AA to move up.. I use to be a big Pavlik fan but i have lost faith in him and Top rank arent helping him at all.

I respect Pavlik, but I think hes a piss **** just because his talk is cheap.
In the Kretschmann fight he recently said he wants to fight the best and returns in a few monthes to the ring. In an interview he mentioned pavlik, felix wants to fight him , but he got this promotional problems right now . whateva I think Pavlik should shut the **** up, cuz he fought also nobody at middleweight last time (Miguel Angel Espino, Marco Antonio Rubio, Gary Lockett)

[Ray*]

I respect Pavlik, but I think hes a piss **** just because his talk is cheap.
In the Kretschmann fight he recently said he wants to fight the best and returns in a few monthes to the ring. In an interview he mentioned pavlik, felix wants to fight him , but he got this promotional problems right now . whateva I think Pavlik should shut the **** up, cuz he fought also nobody at middleweight last time (Miguel Angel Espino, Marco Antonio Rubio, Gary Lockett)

That my problem with Pav, Apart from Hopkins who he fought at 170 he has fought anyone since he beat Taylor at 160 for him to be talking **** about other fighters, 160 isnt full of talented fighter at the moment so for us to lose out on the AA/Pavlik fight makes me annoyed especially when Pavlik talks down on the super 6.

[cleaner147]

That my problem with Pav, Apart from Hopkins who he fought at 170 he has fought anyone since he beat Taylor at 160 for him to be talking **** about other fighters, 160 isnt full of talented fighter at the moment so for us to lose out on the AA/Pavlik fight makes me annoyed especially when Pavlik talks down on the super 6.

my problem with Pavlik is (beside AA & Sturm fights didnt happen) that he always mentioned the JT-wins to lean on it. Props but thats a hundred years ago... also props he fought Hopkins, but weight classes are not just for fun.
-stop dissing other fighters at the division and fight them, thats all -

btw and there are a lot of young talented fighters at 160 (Golovkin,N'Dam N'Jikam and Korobov and many more)