Margarito knew he needed plaster to defeat Cotto

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  • HandSpeed303
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    #31
    Originally posted by swizz
    yea but cotto was owning him 1st 6 rounds maybe the plaster took its affect but dont know if he cheated cant prove it but my opinion is margo cheated and the fact i feell the way is well margo's fault
    Margo won round 2, and split one of the other rounds...Can't recall it at the moment.

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    • Frighteous
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      #32


      look at this ****.

      such bull****...

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #33
        He cheated in the Cotto fight IMO and vs. Williams.

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        • HandSpeed303
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          #34
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          He cheated in the Cotto fight IMO and vs. Williams.
          Like I said before, to some, his whole career is tainted. That is the nature of the beast I guess.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #35
            Originally posted by Frighteous


            look at this ****.

            such bull****...
            that only proves that he tried to cheat against mosley, not cotto

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            • crillz
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              #36
              Originally posted by HandSpeed303
              There is no proof that he used wraps against Cotto...

              Now, lets get to the bottom of this..

              First off, Margo's style is all wrong for Cotto. I really wish Cotto fans would understand this. Margo would KO COtto if Cotto stands and trades. Cotto will also get beat down if he runs (he does not have the stamina to do so for 12 rounds). Stewart will not help either.

              You cats act like plaster just did the whole job for Margo. I guess Cotto being hit more in that fight than he had in any other fight had nothing to do with it, right?

              Now lets talk about the damge to Cotto's face. The uppercut is one of the most damaging punches in boxing
              . Do to the fact that most never see it coming, and the angle that it is delivered. Cotto got hit with like 78 uppercuts...Like 12 were in the second round...You know, the round were Cotto's nose got broke, and face started swelling. Oh wait!! It takes 7 or 8 rounds for the plaster to set!..... Cotto only suffered a cut in the later part of the fight. Funny how folks still to this day can't admit this.

              Bottom line-

              For anyone that looks at that fight with an unbiased eye, will see how Margo destoryed Cotto.

              Head and body. Heart and mental.

              Plaster did not play the factor that many will try and make you believe. Still there is no proof. Just an excuse for Cotto fans, and Margo haters.

              Margo will crush Cotto again if they fight. Then what? Oh that's right, a Rican radio station will make up another lie about Margo being on roids.....
              picture those same 70+ uppercuts with handwraps full of plaster, yea he caught Cotto with it but he had a power boost in his gloves which made all the difference for him, if I hit you with 70+ regular uppercuts it wouldn't be even a 3rd as bad as 70+ uppercuts with plaster in your wraps, THAT'S why the damage built up so much on Cotto..

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              • HandSpeed303
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                #37
                Originally posted by crillz
                picture those same 70+ uppercuts with handwraps full of plaster, yea he caught Cotto with it but he had a power boost in his gloves which made all the difference for him, if I hit you with 70+ regular uppercuts it wouldn't be even a 3rd as bad as 70+ uppercuts with plaster in your wraps, THAT'S why the damage built up so much on Cotto..
                Right...

                Read my other post after this one. I have a respones just for this in the P.S.section (post # 22).

                It is easy to just assume he had plaster in his gloves. Sort of a cop out really. Margo broke Cotto. Plain and simple.
                Last edited by HandSpeed303; 04-10-2010, 02:28 PM.

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                • aztecmother
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                  #38
                  Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission

                  Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, told me "I'm as comfortable as I can be" Margarito's hand wraps and gloves weren't doctored against Miguel Cotto.

                  By GEORGE WILLIS

                  Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, said on Wednesday he is "as comfortable as I can be" that Antonio Margarito's hand wraps and gloves weren't doctored during his July victory over Miguel Cotto at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

                  Margarito's career-defining win over the previously unbeaten Cotto has come into question after two plaster-like pieces were found in Margarito's hand wraps before his bout with Shane Mosley Jan. 24 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

                  The California State Athletic Commission has the two hardened pieces and announced late Wednesday the licenses and Maragarito and his trainer Javier Capetillo were temporarily suspended pending a hearing Feb. 10. A long-term suspension could jeopardize a potential rematch with Cotto this June in the Garden.

                  Nevada will honor the suspensions while the investigation continues. "We're definitely going to listen to whatever California says when they finish their investigation," Kizer said. "We would hope it was all on the up and up and it was a misunderstanding. But I'm sure California will do a thorough job and let the fans and the media and everyone know what happened."

                  Kizer is sure everything was on the "up-and-up" in July when Margarito took the WBA welterweight title from Cotto with an 11th round TKO. Cotto dropped to a knee twice in the 11th beaten, battered and bloodied by a relentless two-fisted assault by Margarito. Cotto's face looked disfigured from the damage.

                  Margarito not only won the title that night, but superstar status that resulted in a record crowd of nearly 21,000 fans at the Staples Center for the fight with Mosley. But word came just before the bout that Margarito's hands had to wrapped three times and HBO commentator Larry Merchant told viewers that "an illegal pad" was found in Margarito's wraps, "something that would harden when wet."

                  Jim Lampley later referred to it as an "illegal implement," adding "inevitably, the question will arise, 'Did he have that in the hand wrap last July. Did it harden like plaster of Paris? Was it a factor in the fight."

                  Kizer is confident the rules and procedures in Nevada prevent any irregularities during hand wrapping and putting on the gloves. "We have experienced inspectors not only watching the hands being wrapped, but also the gloves being put on," Kizer said. "They feel the wraps and sign them and then the gloves and sign them."

                  One difference between Nevada and Calfornia is that Nevada provides the gauze for the hand wrappings, while California allows fighters to use their own gauze.

                  Speaking specifically about July, Kizer said, representatives from the Cotto camp were in Margarito's dressing room during the entire wrapping of the hands. "They were in there from the beginning," Kizer said. "Not only them but people from HBO, people from MGM, there are always a dozen or so people in the dressing room.

                  "I'm pleased with the process we have in Nevada," Kizer said. "Not only does it stop anybody who tries to do something like that, it stops anybody who is thinking about doing it."

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                  • Clyde Barrow
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                    #39
                    Margarito laughed at Cotto's best shots and beat him to a pulp. Let it go already. Cotto's onto other business.

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                    • el malo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ELPacman
                      I feel Tony knew he would become a Mexican superstar if he beat Cotto who had established himself really well already in the WW division. Cotto was undefeated and looked liked a tank against the majority of his opponents. Tony didn't want to take any chance in this fight and used the plaster(maybe even before Cotto he's been using it...). Without the plaster I think Cotto wouldn't have wilted as easy and Tony would have been more discouraged similar to the way Mosley shut him out. When he lost the first 5 or 6 against Mosley, he knew he was in trouble. Yet...against Cotto there was zero discouragement. Hmmm?
                      bingo, plasterito cheated vs cotto.

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