Roy Jones, Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton

[Zab Super Judah]

didnt wanna fight overseas, and after getting robbed at the olympics, i dont blame him.

either way, overrated darius michdkjlfdblahblah got beat by julio gonzalez. didnt roy beat him too?

yeah no problem with not wanting to fight overseas besides he was the draw why should he go overseas

[Cletus Funk]

Anyone whoe doubts RJJ's talent is a fool. That said, he did opt for the easy life for a lot of his career and that is the only thing that stops me putting him up there with people like SRL, SRR and Hagler. The fights with McLellan, Eubank, Benn, etc should have been made regardless of location, and I'm not saying they should have been in England in the case of the latter 2. He may well have lost the odd fight but it wouldn't have detracted from his legacy as much as not fighting them seems to have. This isn't something that can be levelled at KT. He's not put a foot wrong in his career in my eyes and politics/fear didn't stop him making the fights.

[masterdirector]

His divisions were strong, he knew that he didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys.

Gerald McClellan was the best Middleweight in the World at the same time Jones Jr was in that division, Jones Jr didn't fight him. Jones Jr was number two to McClellan.

Benn, Eubank, Collins and Liles were all in the top three at certain points in 1995 and 1996 when Jones Jr was at 168, Jones Jr fought none of them - they were all World Champions offering Jones Jr unification clashes. Jones Jr ran scared from all of them.

Dariusz Michalczewski was undefeated World Champion at 175 for so many years and it was at the same time that Jones Jr was in that division... Jones Jr didn't want nothing to do with him.

All Euro fighters. Nothing stopped them from coming here and fighting Roy. He already beat better people in Toney and Hopkins. McClellan was his friend dumbass. Of course he didn't fight him.

DM? You're ****ing gay man. You're just a Jones hater, admit it. Even bringing up DM just shows you're a Euro ******. DM had ONE ****ing belt, the WBO belt. Jones had ALL the other titles, and this was when the WBO was even less than it is now. Jones was undisputed, yet DM expected Jones to go over there and fight on his turf for less money. Ha! That ****** wasn't ****. Julio Gonzales and Fabrice Tiozzo.

[elveiel]

two words.... skin color

Thats ****ing bull****!

The reason why people like Tsyzu is because he's respectful, non trash talking and self confindent. He admits he was beaten the better man on the night.

Roy Jones has non respect for his opponents, talks as much trash as Mayweather and Toney together and has a huge ego, he thinks he's above everyone else. When he was beaten he kept making excuses.

I dont know why people get hung up on the skin colour issue, people hate fighters like Jones, Mayweather and Toney because they are *******s(even though i think they are funny), not because they are black.

Question - who doesnt like Big George Foreman?? He's self confident but doesnt have a massive ego, same with Evander Holyfield.

[solo1bc]

DM? You're ****ing gay man. You're just a Jones hater, admit it. Even bringing up DM just shows you're a Euro ******.

So your ****phobic and a racist! Way to go!

People are allowed an opinion converse to yours with out getting called names mate... And by the way the opinion stated is a pretty common one THROUGHOUT boxing so I don't think people say it just because they hate Jones... Even if they do...

Grow the **** up!

And by the way.. Looking at your Avatar I would say people in glass houses....!!!

[repsa]

It is partially skin color, I believe this. Tszyu is not so respectful. How is he respectful? He says arrogantly that he will win fights. Roy Jones was gracious in defeat, as was Tszyu. This site, truth be told, has a lot of hidden racism for fighters, I see it. Boxing is at times culturally based, so this is no big surprise.

There is plenty of criticism that one could offer about Kostya Tszyu, which has been made on these very boards by members, but other members either just say crap about "Tszyu is respectful" or just ignore it all together. Tszyu has been nothing but disrespectful to Zab Judah, refusing to grant him a rematch. That isn't gracious, it is cowardly.

Tszyu insulted Mitchell for quitting against him. That's a good sportsman? Mitchell was clearly injured before the first fight, Tszyu knew this. Mitchell fought anyhow. Tszyu took advantage and threw Mitchell around as much as possible.

Tszyu also insulted Acelito Freitas for quitting after the fight with Diego Corrales. If you recall, Mitchell fought on the undercard so Tszyu was there to watch. So he saw it happen. And said bad things about both men. This is not being a good sport.

And Ricky Hatton really had fought all nobodies prior to Tszyu. His best win was against a severely washed up Vince Philips. Hatton also clearly ducked fighters prior to the Tszyu fight. He proved this when he gave up his #1 contendership before the Tszyu fight was even signed.

My purpose here is not to insult Hatton or Tszyu, though I suppose I did so. My purpose is to say that there are very justified reasons to not like Hatton or Tszyu just as much as Jones, or at least somewhere close.

Why I say race may be a factor for some. When I was young, I recall a particular Roy Jones fight against Vinnie Pazienza. I was not very big into boxing but I remember at school there was a little hype about this fight. All the black kids went for Roy Jones and a lot of the white kids went for Pazienza. A lot more than should have, we shall put it that way. None of the Pazienza fans had any real justification for rooting for him. A few of the white kids did actually go for Roy Jones. None of the black kids went for Pazienza, that I knew of at least.

I do not believe the vast majority of those kids were boxing fans at all. The white kids pulling for Roy Jones knew enough to know that Roy Jones was a much better fighter than Pazienza. So for all those that knew nothing, race and peer pressure were the only attributes the kids went on. Not saying that is everyone, just saying it can be a factor for some.

[MrUnstoppable]

You'll have to excuse the Juy. Apparantly, Roy made a special trip overseas just to pee in Juy's oatmeal and it now affects his grasp on reality.

[repsa]

Glad I don't eat oatmeal. Oranges are quite tasty, sometimes. And Blueberry muffins can be great, and filling.

[Tarver is my dad]

Roy Jones is known to have a huge ego, while people consider Zoo more humble. When it comes down to it, the way a boxer presents himself shows a lot about that person. I absoutely hated Glen Johnson when he beat Jones, but when I heard him at the post-fight and he said "I am not the best, but I am willing to fight the best," I became a fan right away. So what I'm saying is, I think people takes Zoo more lightly is because of his humble attitude.

[repsa]

Is Tarver really your father? I hope not, for what I will say might anger you, but it is not meant to do so. Antonio Tarver looks like one of those menstral actors:





I wonder if people have said that to him. Probably only once if they did, since he could knock them out.