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  • DLT
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    Roy Jones, Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton

    I was just wondering why do people hate guys like Jones so much and love guys like Tszyu? When Jones lost all the media and alot of fans said that he was overrated and he finally fought someone who could beat him. When Tszyu loses now they say that he may have got old over night or looked flat. Huh?

    The reality is that Tszyu looked 10x better off then Jones did. Jones looked old and washed up. He looked that way even in the first Tarver fight.

    I didnt see any difference from this Tszyu and his other fights. The difference is he fought a guy who was better. Tszyu KO Mitchell and Judah early(both slick southpaws) but against his last 3 right handers he didnt look special at all. He went the distance with Urkal and almost lost and never hurt him at all. He went the distance with Tackie and never hurt him, and alot of people had him losing to Leija at the time of the stoppage. Then you add to that Hatton was the first guy since Vince who brought the fight straight to Tszyu. Leija and Tackie somewhat did but they didnt have the speed Hatton does.

    Hatton would beat Tszyu every time and he wasnt flat at all. I bet that same Tszyu wouldve KO Mitchell again or Hatton wouldve beat the Tszyu that fought Mitchell. He wasnt any different or flat. Hatton was just a different fighter and style.
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    hmm

    100% correct, bro, which just goes to show ya that styles make fans, and people don't like Jones sometimes because they think they know who he is when they don't know S*** about him.

    Anywho, yes, Tszyu is not shot by any means, although he isn't necessarily in his prime either.

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    • JUYJUY
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      Tszyu didn't avoid the best fighters in his division(s) his whole career.

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      • Zab Super Judah
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        #4
        Originally posted by JUYJUY
        Tszyu didn't avoid the best fighters in his division(s) his whole career.
        roy jones didnt avoid anyone he beat both hopkins and toney. What other fighter in this world can say they beat hopkins and toney. It's not roy jones fault that the people in his division were weak

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        • masterdirector
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          #5
          two words.... skin color

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          • masterdirector
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            #6
            Originally posted by Zab Super Judah
            roy jones didnt avoid anyone he beat both hopkins and toney. What other fighter in this world can say they beat hopkins and toney. It's not roy jones fault that the people in his division were weak
            He didn't fight nobodies, he just made them look like nobodies. People would be saying how f'n great Montell Griffin was if Jones hadn't come along.

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            • JUYJUY
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              #7
              Originally posted by Zab Super Judah
              roy jones didnt avoid anyone he beat both hopkins and toney. What other fighter in this world can say they beat hopkins and toney. It's not roy jones fault that the people in his division were weak
              His divisions were strong, he knew that he didn't have a strong enough chin to mix it with the big boys.

              Gerald McClellan was the best Middleweight in the World at the same time Jones Jr was in that division, Jones Jr didn't fight him. Jones Jr was number two to McClellan.

              Benn, Eubank, Collins and Liles were all in the top three at certain points in 1995 and 1996 when Jones Jr was at 168, Jones Jr fought none of them - they were all World Champions offering Jones Jr unification clashes. Jones Jr ran scared from all of them.

              Dariusz Michalczewski was undefeated World Champion at 175 for so many years and it was at the same time that Jones Jr was in that division... Jones Jr didn't want nothing to do with him.

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              • JUYJUY
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                #8
                Originally posted by masterdirector
                He didn't fight nobodies, he just made them look like nobodies.
                Jones Jr defended his IBF 168 title five times - three of which weren't even ranked in the top 10 in the division at the time, one of which was a blown-up lightweight, and the other was indeed the #1 contender at the time and was some guy called Bryant Brannon (oh yeah, he was great.. lol).

                Following Jones Jr's 175 win over 'Nigel Benn wannabe' Richard Hall (Richard who?), people were saying that Jones Jr was better than Sugar Ray Robinson - if that's not over-rated then I don't know what is.

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                • PapiShasho
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by JUYJUY
                  Tszyu didn't avoid the best fighters in his division(s) his whole career.
                  roy jones did?!?! hahaha...

                  he only beat the #1 pound for pound fighter right now in hopkins, beat toney, beat the guy who beat toney (griffin), etc...who else did you want him to beat? he cant fight everyone in the world.

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                  • PapiShasho
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JUYJUY
                    Dariusz Michalczewski was undefeated World Champion at 175 for so many years and it was at the same time that Jones Jr was in that division... Jones Jr didn't want nothing to do with him.
                    didnt wanna fight overseas, and after getting robbed at the olympics, i dont blame him.

                    either way, overrated darius michdkjlfdblahblah got beat by julio gonzalez. didnt roy beat him too?

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