How many legacies have been destroyed this year?

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  • bchynn
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    #11
    It is all subjective. DLH may have needed to beat Hopkins in order to reach greatness, in some people's eyes. Losing to trinidad, Mosely twice, and having too many close matches really are why DLH is so talked about.

    Tyson, imo, needed this new comeback. He's really never beaten a great fighter and could have if he stayed on the right track this time around. Possible opponent could have been Vitali.

    Freitas may be a bit soon, but I don't see him coming back from this defeat.

    RJJ is a great fighter, but so many people have discredited him over the course of his career because of his opposition. Many felt tarver was the guy to beat, yet Jones lost to him.

    Eric Morales...well, he's not going to be looked at as one of the best anymore.

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    • sean2079
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      #12
      i agree, roy jones legacy isnt destroyed.

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      • Mikie
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        #13
        I totally agree!

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        • Bombardier
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          #14
          Roy Jones' legacy was already tarnished from a perception that he was not taking on the top competition. Hopkins had a similar knock recently though his win against DLH erases this image significantly.

          DLH has lost four in a row, which looks bad on any fighter trying to build a lasting reputation. Fourty years from now, he may be remembered more for his business experise than his fighting, since it looks like he might be able to build Golden Boy into a prospering company, and therefore set a shining example of what fighters can accomplish outside the ring.

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          • jack_the_rippuh
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            #15
            John Ruiz tarnished such a promising legacy this year..

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            • Ranger2408
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              #16
              Originally posted by Bombardier
              Roy Jones' legacy was already tarnished from a perception that he was not taking on the top competition. Hopkins had a similar knock recently though his win against DLH erases this image significantly.

              DLH has lost four in a row, which looks bad on any fighter trying to build a lasting reputation. Fourty years from now, he may be remembered more for his business experise than his fighting, since it looks like he might be able to build Golden Boy into a prospering company, and therefore set a shining example of what fighters can accomplish outside the ring.
              Hopkins beating up a natural welterweight does not secure his legacy in any way

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              • abdiel2k3
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                #17
                Originally posted by bchynn
                Eric Morales...well, he's not going to be looked at as one of the best anymore.
                so i guess barrera wont be looked at as one of the best anymore?
                i mean ur basing this on the fact that morales lost twice to MAB right?
                well MAB lost twice to Junior Jones, TKOd by Pac,and lost a decision to morales
                theres three guys walkin around that can say they beat Barrera
                Only one can say theyve beaten Morales

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                • drag0n_
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by abdiel2k3
                  so i guess barrera wont be looked at as one of the best anymore?
                  i mean ur basing this on the fact that morales lost twice to MAB right?
                  well MAB lost twice to Junior Jones, TKOd by Pac,and lost a decision to morales
                  theres three guys walkin around that can say they beat Barrera
                  Only one can say theyve beaten Morales

                  Who cares?

                  He beat the best fighter out of those names (Morales) therefore he will get all the credit.

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                  • bchynn
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bombardier
                    Roy Jones' legacy was already tarnished from a perception that he was not taking on the top competition. Hopkins had a similar knock recently though his win against DLH erases this image significantly.

                    DLH has lost four in a row, which looks bad on any fighter trying to build a lasting reputation. Fourty years from now, he may be remembered more for his business experise than his fighting, since it looks like he might be able to build Golden Boy into a prospering company, and therefore set a shining example of what fighters can accomplish outside the ring.
                    I disagree. Jones' legacy was being underestimated, not tarnished, during his career. I think he did fight and beat good opposition. Many say his toughest match was against Tarver and he didn't do anything to improve on his career against him. If he were to have soundly defeated Tarver, Jones' legacy would have been more secured, to many more people.

                    DLH did not lose 4 in a row. If you want to take public opinion into consideration (as you are doing by saying he lost to Sturm), then consider that Mosely II could have gone to DLH.

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                    • P@pasmurf
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                      #20
                      i dont tihnk morales legacy was on the line this year. Hes proven himself plenty of times.

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