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  • damned1974
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    #71
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    What about the coward who refuses to take them?
    LOL!!! Suddenly Pac fans are interested in the drug testing that MANNY doesn't want a part of-this is classic.

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    • damned1974
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      #72
      Originally posted by speedjay
      only cowards settle for less.
      Isn't that what Manny did,by settling for Clottey,for fighting in Texas (that did no drug testing),and bailing from a massive fight with Floyd over drug testing?
      weak.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #73
        Originally posted by S.G.
        If that NSAC mandated testing is so great why would they need to peep the USADA test results? It'd be redundant, right?
        What part don't you get about the fight being held in the state of Nevada under a government agency?

        Are you really this simple to not understand such a simple concept?

        Whether its redundant or not,

        the fight still has to be under the care of the NSAC as they are the leading authority of combat sports in that state.


        Since this is about "cleaning up the sport",

        wouldn't you want the state commissions knowing about something like this?

        I guess since this thread goes against Floyd,

        you have to find some way to defend no matter how illogical you appear.

        Don't forget, the entire purpose of this testing is to "clean up the sport".

        Why not report the results of a "better" test to the agency that oversees all fights so as to show how it can be properly done?

        But no, simple Simons like you don't think like that,


        you cats just go into a defensive crouch as soon as there is something critical said of Floyd without even thinking about what you're defending him about.


        If you're for better testing within the sport as a whole,

        you should have no qualms about this being reported to the state commission.
        Last edited by Vasyl’s dad; 04-09-2010, 02:00 PM.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #74
          Originally posted by S.G.
          I'll put it to you again though: why does it matter if they don't have access to the USADA test results?
          the fight in in nevada. they have jurisdiction there.

          Bearing in mind the USADA's policy if a test comes up dirty is to publicly name the dirty fighter, cancel the fight, and ban the guilty party for 2 years?
          The USADA can't cancel the fight or ban the guilty party. they don't have the power to do that. all they can do is report the guilty party and hope that the powers that be will listen to them.

          What role do the NSAC have to play in that scenario?
          If the fight happens in vegas, the NSAC is in charge of it.


          Originally posted by Horus
          Why would they want someone elses drug test if they are already testing the fighters themselves????
          that's besides the point. the point is, if the NSAC wants it then they should get it.

          By asking for someone elses test even though they are testing the same athletes that USADA is testing, they are admiting that their test are insufficient.
          not necessarily.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #75
            Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
            What part don't you get about the fight being held in the state of Nevada under a government agency?

            Are you really this simple to not understand such a simple concept?

            Whether its redundant or not,

            the fight still has to be under the care of the NSAC as they are the leading authority of combat sports in that state.


            Since this is about "cleaning up the sport",

            wouldn't you want the state commissions knowing about something like this?

            I guess since this thread goes against Floyd,

            you have to find some way to defend no matter how illogical you appear.

            Don't forget, the entire purpose of this testing is to "clean up the sport".

            Why not report the results of a "better" test to the agency that oversees all fights so as to show how it can be properly done?

            But no, simple Simons like yo don't think like that,


            you cats just go into a defensive crouch as soon as their is something critical said of Floyd without even thinking about what you're defending him about.


            If you're for better testing within the sport as a whole,

            you should have no qualms about this being reported to the state commission.
            They will know about it. Your post is nonsense.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #76
              Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
              What part don't you get about the fight being held in the state of Nevada under a government agency?

              Are you really this simple to not understand such a simple concept?

              Whether its redundant or not,

              the fight still has to be under the care of the NSAC as they are the leading authority of combat sports in that state.


              Since this is about "cleaning up the sport",

              wouldn't you want the state commissions knowing about something like this?

              I guess since this thread goes against Floyd,

              you have to find some way to defend no matter how illogical you appear.

              Don't forget, the entire purpose of this testing is to "clean up the sport".

              Why not report the results of a "better" test to the agency that oversees all fights so as to show how it can be properly done?

              But no, simple Simons like yo don't think like that,


              you cats just go into a defensive crouch as soon as their is something critical said of Floyd without even thinking about what you're defending him about.


              If you're for better testing within the sport as a whole,

              you should have no qualms about this being reported to the state commission.
              exactly. damn *****s are dense.

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              • Kagami Taiga
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                #77
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                the fight in in nevada. they have jurisdiction there.


                The USADA can't cancel the fight or ban the guilty party. they don't have the power to do that. all they can do is report the guilty party and hope that the powers that be will listen to them.


                If the fight happens in vegas, the NSAC is in charge of it.



                that's besides the point. the point is, if the NSAC wants it then they should get it.



                not necessarily.
                ok, ill explain it to u. in this country we live in, the USA, parties are free to contract. under the constitution of the united states, the freedom to contract is a fundamental right. that means that neither the federal government eand especially not a state run organization can keep two parties from contracting anything thats legal under the law. that means when it comes to the contract between the two parties, the feds and the stae cannot interfere, no matter what u think. the NSAC is a state org. they have no jurisdiction to interfere in the contract terms of any citizen. they have their own rules, as long as those are satisfied, the rights of private citizens outweighs any concerns they have. dont believe me, go take that nonsense to any lawyer and they'll laugh at u.

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                • S.G.
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by TortillaWarrior
                  What part don't you get about the fight being held in the state of Nevada under a government agency?

                  Are you really this simple to not understand such a simple concept?

                  Whether its redundant or not,

                  the fight still has to be under the care of the NSAC as they are the leading authority of combat sports in that state.


                  Since this is about "cleaning up the sport",

                  wouldn't you want the state commissions knowing about something like this?

                  I guess since this thread goes against Floyd,

                  you have to find some way to defend no matter how illogical you appear.

                  Don't forget, the entire purpose of this testing is to "clean up the sport".

                  Why not report the results of a "better" test to the agency that oversees all fights so as to show how it can be properly done?

                  But no, simple Simons like you don't think like that,


                  you cats just go into a defensive crouch as soon as there is something critical said of Floyd without even thinking about what you're defending him about.


                  If you're for better testing within the sport as a whole,

                  you should have no qualms about this being reported to the state commission.
                  Well done for quoting a reductio ad ridiculum retort and still managing to jabber on about nothing in particular in such a long-winded manner.

                  Oh, and you're wrong anyway.

                  I have no qualms with the USADA keeping the NSAC up to date--it's inconsiquential frankly. And it has not been stated that they will not be doing so, dummy. In fact Kizer said that he'd been informed by the USADA that the results would in fact be passed onto him.

                  So yeah, try and actually read the stories (if that's not beyond you) before you put on your big dramatic indignant act next time, pal, and avoid making yourself look like a complete and utter imbcile in every post you make.
                  Last edited by S.G.; 04-09-2010, 02:28 PM.

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by S.G.
                    Well done for quoting a reductio ad ridiculum retort and managing to find a reason to jabber on about nothing in particular in such a long-winded manner.

                    Oh, and being wrong in the process.

                    I have no qualms with the USADA keeping the NSAC up to date, nor has it been stated that they will not be doing so, dummy. In fact Kizer said that he'd been informed by the USADA that the results would be passed onto him.

                    So yeah, try and read the stories before you put on your big dramatic indignant act next time pal. I bet you feel a bit silly now huh?

                    What I'm simply asking is what any of this has to do with the NSAC in the first place, and why morons such as Pullcounter are trying to twist this misinformation into a new Pacfan talking point?




                    What part of the NSAC being the commission do you not get?

                    They are the leading authority in that state for combat sports.

                    It has everything to do with them in the first place.

                    Now you're being an ass just show your hole.


                    lol why would I feel silly?

                    You're the one pretending not to understand why the role of the NSAC is important.


                    At least I hope you are.

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                    • S.G.
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by TortillaWarrior


                      What part of the NSAC being the commission do you not get?

                      They are the leading authority in that state for combat sports.

                      It has everything to do with them in the first place.

                      Now you're being an ass just show your hole.


                      lol why would I feel silly?

                      You're the one pretending not to understand why the role of the NSAC is important.


                      At least I hope you are.

                      No, I just don't understand how the NSAC are being unduly compromised by the involvement of the USADA.

                      The NSAC will be conducting business as usual, including their standard archaic drug testing protocol, just as they would have been if the USADA hadn't been employed by Golden Boy to provide extra-curricular drug testing.

                      They are also going to be kept in know by USADA (who, incidentally, are also a government funded organisation), just out of good faith.

                      So what are you talking about? Or are you just running in here with your big attention grabbing green text to antagonise people?--which seems to be your primary and sole motive for even posting on this site.

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