Julio Cesar Chavez Or Hopkins? Who's Greater?

[Thread Stealer]

I'd go with Chavez here. He had a great stretch where he was beating so many of the who's who of 130-140 lb. divisions.

hopkins hyphe up alot cuz his ko's over tito and oscar lets face it those 2 were welteweights so hopkins beat smaller guys.chavez was unbeatable untill he got in drugs an being a drunk he had the worst down fall a ATG has ever had but his legacy is written and its sure a impresive one

No he did not. Numerous ATGs had sadder falls from grace than him. Please elaborate on this claim.

[Mr. Fantastic]

chavez fought welterweights at welterweight.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Fantastic]

Trinidad? Tarver wasn't a bum either

What was Trinidad's best weight??

[jrosales13]

What was Trinidad's best weight??

147/154 but where was Trinidad rated when that fight took place? And, what who did Tito fight before Hopkins?

IMO Chavez is greater and I don't even think is close. But, lets not act like Hopkins only beat bums. The Tito win was a damn good win. Tito was even the favorte. Not a lot of people thought Hopkins was going to win that fight. I know cuz I am a Tito fan.... He is my favorite fighter of all time.

[Heeb]

Hopkins, but it's close.

[Dick Buffman]

147/154 but where was Trinidad rated when that fight took place? And, what who did Tito fight before Hopkins?

IMO Chavez is greater and I don't even think is close. But, lets not act like Hopkins only beat bums. The Tito win was a damn good win. Tito was even the favorte. Not a lot of people thought Hopkins was going to win that fight. I know cuz I am a Tito fan.... He is my favorite fighter of all time.

most of hopkins defenses at middleweight were against mediocre fighters.

the best fighters he fought were not middleweights.

[Dick Buffman]

Hopkins, but it's close.

it ain't hopkins and it ain't even close.

[BROOKLYN CESAR]

chavez fought welterweights at welterweight.

Now thats just dumb B hop is a legend!!! I lean towards JCC being the better of the two but i am a big fan of his so take it as you will!!! I even named my son CESAR after him!!!

[Bennett]

Trinidad? Tarver wasn't a bum either

trinidad was not a ww that moved up???? reread my post. old mans best wins were against smaller guys coming up in weight. tarver was a one hit wonder. who has he beat since? nobody. one hit wonder. dawson ate him up, not even close.

16 to 3 gotto say somethin

[Mr. Fantastic]

147/154 but where was Trinidad rated when that fight took place? And, what who did Tito fight before Hopkins?

IMO Chavez is greater and I don't even think is close. But, lets not act like Hopkins only beat bums. The Tito win was a damn good win. Tito was even the favorte. Not a lot of people thought Hopkins was going to win that fight. I know cuz I am a Tito fan.... He is my favorite fighter of all time.

So you give Bhop props for beating Tito, who's best weight was a division or two lower and Tito was the favorite. Buuuuuut yet you don't even give DLH credit for being the underdog against Chavez. Gotta love boxing fans lol.