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  • TheNegation
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    #11
    Originally posted by jantzen212003
    I dont think he does either. And i'm pretty sure you do. So fill the novices in please.

    What is growth and how does it work? How effective is it?
    First of all Growth Hormone is not a steroid. It's combination of 191 amino acids, that when used, basically forces the body to produce IGF-1.

    Secondly, HGH, used by itself, from a performance enhancing standpoint is close to useless. HGH is better stacked with tradtional AAS.

    The only real benefit anyone would experience from using HGH is dramatically decreased recovery time from strenuous activity, faster healing from injuries etc.

    It doesn't grant you with Tyson-esg knockout power or Roy Jones Jr reflexes and speed.

    It doesn't improve your ability to take a punch.

    It doesn't make you a better boxer.

    So in short, HGH is uselss by itself.

    Lastly, just because the nerds at USADA say they can blood tests are more "suitable", doesn't mean that whoever is taking is will automatically fail a test, USADA and Anti-Doping squads will always be a step behind. That's the way it will always be. There are ALWAYS ways to get around testing.

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    • flexxx145
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      #12
      Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
      First of all Growth Hormone is not a steroid. It's combination of 191 amino acids, that when used, basically forces the body to produce IGF-1.

      Secondly, HGH, used by itself, from a performance enhancing standpoint is close to useless. HGH is better stacked with tradtional AAS.

      The only real benefit anyone would experience from using HGH is dramatically decreased recovery time from strenuous activity, faster healing from injuries etc.

      It doesn't grant you with Tyson-esg knockout power or Roy Jones Jr reflexes and speed.

      It doesn't improve your ability to take a punch.

      It doesn't make you a better boxer.

      So in short, HGH is uselss by itself.

      Lastly, just because the nerds at USADA say they can blood tests are more "suitable", doesn't mean that whoever is taking is will automatically fail a test, USADA and Anti-Doping squads will always be a step behind. That's the way it will always be. There are ALWAYS ways to get around testing.
      And you got your Doctorate in Medicine and Chemistry from where again? Since you know more than the nerds at USADA.

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      • TheNegation
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        #13
        Originally posted by flexxx145
        And you got your Doctorate in Medicine and Chemistry from where again? Since you know more than the nerds at USADA.
        I have a PHD in BroScience.

        But really, it doesn't take a genius to understand that drug tests aren't perfect, are flawed and are behind the drug that are around.

        There has to be working knowledge of the drug in question in order to develop a reliable test. And people, not even experts know everything about HGH and the mechanism of action

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          #14
          Here we go again with Chapter 640..

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            #15
            Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
            I have a PHD in BroScience.

            But really, it doesn't take a genius to understand that drug tests aren't perfect, are flawed and are behind the drug that are around.

            There has to be working knowledge of the drug in question in order to develop a reliable test. And people, not even experts know everything about HGH and the mechanism of action
            So it's feasible that Pac needs at least the scare of getting caught. If he is on something to motivate him to fight clean. This goes for any fighter who may be dirty. But I'm far more inclined to believe the actual experts than pac fans with no medical expertise.

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              #16
              Originally posted by GroundSt.Pound
              I have a PHD in BroScience.

              But really, it doesn't take a genius to understand that drug tests aren't perfect, are flawed and are behind the drug that are around.

              There has to be working knowledge of the drug in question in order to develop a reliable test. And people, not even experts know everything about HGH and the mechanism of action
              What GroundSt.Pound said is true, HGH by itself is used more for it's anti-aging properties rather than performance enhancing. TS stop trying to desperately make excuses for Floyd, we all know he looked for a way out of the fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by mesher
                What GroundSt.Pound said is true, HGH by itself is used more for it's anti-aging properties rather than performance enhancing. TS stop trying to desperately make excuses for Floyd, we all know he looked for a way out of the fight.
                You are so correct that's why every muscle head I know is on HGH.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by flexxx145
                  So it's feasible that Pac needs at least the scare of getting caught. If he is on something to motivate him to fight clean. This goes for any fighter who may be dirty. But I'm far more inclined to believe the actual experts than pac fans with no medical expertise.
                  Your so called USADA expert, Don Caitlin, recently claimed that an over the counter supplement, Xtreme Tren, was actually real Trenbolone Acetate, when it fact it actually ended up being a Dienolone precursor, which doesn't even closely resemble Tren Ace. It's also impossible that Trenbolone Acetate could be properly contained in a ****ing capsule.

                  USADA is far from the pinnacle of PED expertise.

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                    #19
                    Difficult task for *****s everywhere convincing the boxing world that #1 P4P PAC is on drugs.

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                    • TheNegation
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by flexxx145
                      You are so correct that's why every muscle head I know is on HGH.
                      And they are probably stacking it with 1 or several other AAS.

                      HGH again is useless by itself.

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