Comments Thread For: Mosley Getting Beat Up in Training, Says Mayweather Sr.

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Things to remember about Shane Mosley:

-Shane has been the #1 rated pound for pound fighter before, and has the potential to do so again in beating Floyd. In fact, he is already the top rated welterweight there is, and by defeating Floyd there would be no question that he would be the #1 pound for pound in unifying the titles at 147 (he will own all of them except for Manny Pacquiao's, and we all know Manny doesn't have the balls to face Shane, even at 140 where he would be frail and drained!)

-Shane has fought the better competition his entire career. Who did Shane Mosley ever cherry pick in his title defences? When did Shane ever fight an old, past their prime fighter in a so called "big fight"? I can name several of these for Floyd.

-Shane is a power puncher. He knocks mother****ers OUT. Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out in what, 3 years? And it wasn't even a knockout, it was a ref stoppage. Floyd has no power at 147. He might have at 135, but that isn't the case. Floyd cannot hurt Shane. It's not going to happen. Advantage Shane.

-Shane is fast and puts combinations together. Yes he is slower than he used to be, but who isn't at nearly 40 years old? He is still much faster than anyone Floyd has fought in years. Is Floyd faster? Yes, but not by much.

And finally:

I believe Shane will knock Mayweather out. In fact, I am putting 500 large on him to win by KO. The reason is simple: Shane is, in my opinion, the ONLY person at 147 that is currently capable of defeating Mayweather. He is simply too fast, can take insane amounts of damage, and too determined to let this be his retirement fight. Think about it: Shane wins, is #1 P4P again, is the only person to beat Mayweather, and has nothing left to prove except against Pacquiao, and sorry Pacman I like you as a fighter but you would get annihilated by Mosley.

Thoughts?

Yea it has been almost 3 years since floyd knocked someone out. But in the same token he has only had 2 fights in 3 years. When he stopped Hatton on 12/8/2007. His next next fight wasnt until 9/19/2009 against Marquez which we all agree was a tune up fight. So saying he hasnt knocked anyone out in 3 years doesnt quite help your arguement when he knocked out 1 out of his last 2 oppenents out. Not having the power to hurt Mosley well lets look into that aswell. Floyd has 40 fights with 25 knock outs thats a 62.5% knock out ratio. Floyd has stopped fighters such as Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gati, Henry Brusels, Phillip N'Dou, and last but not least (RIP) Diego Corrales. At that time Diego was 30-0 with 27 knock outs!!! Chico was knocked down 5 times in that fight!! No one would have ever believed that would be the out come!! Including myself I remember that fight like it was yesterday.

Now about Mr Mosley!! Great fighter and future hall of famer!! Nothing negatve to say!! However as much as anyone will hate to admit it Mayweather Sr has a good point. His son is going to give Mosley fits in the right. Mosley does best against opponents that stand in front of him and get into a slug match with him. Needless to say PBF is not doing that. They say Mosley has problem with fighters who whose movement. Well I see it like this Mosley has a harder time with boxers then his does fighters. Winky Wright for example, not a big puncher at all but would box you right out of the ring. My opinion is that floyd is alot more evasive than Wright and is quicker to the draw. This posses a problem for Mosley. Vernon Forrest (RIP) was both a fighter and a boxer. Hence the 2 losses. The Cotto fight is very questionable because Mosley actually started gaining his momentum back in the fight but then what happened? The answer is Cotto started boxing and stop fighting. This made it harder for Mosley to score thus giving Cotto the win.

May 1st will be historic but please everyone consider all facts about the fighters before choosing sides. I think alot of people are more wanting Floyd to get his first lost with less care of who gives it to him. My pick is Floyd by SD. Good luck to both fighters and Im sure my $50 will be well spent!!

[mr.thraz]

mr thraz i think we are wasting our time trying to get people to understand the difference between catch wts and division wts.

i think your correct sir

[amayseng]

the key factor in this fight IMO will be floyds ability to take away his opponets best asset, will this be effective vs shane. and floyds counter punching. floyd lives at the top of the fighters poll for a reason. cotto was able to out box shane and PBF is much faster. it will be a battle but i see floyds effective counter punching being a major factor as shane has wide punches and should be there for those sharp check hooks. floyd by wide ud IMO.

good points, but you have to understand, and maybe others dont because they have never been in a ring, but when a guy has good buzz(cotto) on his punches, then that negates a fighter from doing what he wants and limits his options during the fight... shane had to respect cotto because of cottos power in both hands...although, i still gave shane 7-5 rounds against cotto when scoring it, and i was not biased.

now my point is that floyd does not have that buzz, or pop and does not fight in combinations to keep shane from doing what he wants when he wants.
fighting is imposing your will against your opponent, like i said, jlc does not have half of the skill and athletic ability as floyd, but the fight was very, very close.

styles make fights.

shanes style will be too much for floyd.

floyd and shane are not going to stand at an imaginary line and box skill against skill....

there will be movement, ring generalship, activity, pressure, combinations and one imposing their will against the other..

i mean, what is floyd going to impose? pot shotting and running for 12 rounds?

that will not win rounds against an active mosley

[Rome-By-Ko]

good points, but you have to understand, and maybe others dont because they have never been in a ring, but when a guy has good buzz(cotto) on his punches, then that negates a fighter from doing what he wants and limits his options during the fight... shane had to respect cotto because of cottos power in both hands...although, i still gave shane 7-5 rounds against cotto when scoring it, and i was not biased.

now my point is that floyd does not have that buzz, or pop and does not fight in combinations to keep shane from doing what he wants when he wants.
fighting is imposing your will against your opponent, like i said, jlc does not have half of the skill and athletic ability as floyd, but the fight was very, very close.

styles make fights.

shanes style will be too much for floyd.

floyd and shane are not going to stand at an imaginary line and box skill against skill....

there will be movement, ring generalship, activity, pressure, combinations and one imposing their will against the other..

i mean, what is floyd going to impose? pot shotting and running for 12 rounds?

that will not win rounds against an active mosley

Great post keep up the schooling we are a few weeks away and they have to know why May failed the exam.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Things to remember about Shane Mosley:

-Shane has been the #1 rated pound for pound fighter before, and has the potential to do so again in beating Floyd. In fact, he is already the top rated welterweight there is, and by defeating Floyd there would be no question that he would be the #1 pound for pound in unifying the titles at 147 (he will own all of them except for Manny Pacquiao's, and we all know Manny doesn't have the balls to face Shane, even at 140 where he would be frail and drained!)

-Shane has fought the better competition his entire career. Who did Shane Mosley ever cherry pick in his title defences? When did Shane ever fight an old, past their prime fighter in a so called "big fight"? I can name several of these for Floyd.

-Shane is a power puncher. He knocks mother****ers OUT. Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out in what, 3 years? And it wasn't even a knockout, it was a ref stoppage. Floyd has no power at 147. He might have at 135, but that isn't the case. Floyd cannot hurt Shane. It's not going to happen. Advantage Shane.

-Shane is fast and puts combinations together. Yes he is slower than he used to be, but who isn't at nearly 40 years old? He is still much faster than anyone Floyd has fought in years. Is Floyd faster? Yes, but not by much.

And finally:

I believe Shane will knock Mayweather out. In fact, I am putting 500 large on him to win by KO. The reason is simple: Shane is, in my opinion, the ONLY person at 147 that is currently capable of defeating Mayweather. He is simply too fast, can take insane amounts of damage, and too determined to let this be his retirement fight. Think about it: Shane wins, is #1 P4P again, is the only person to beat Mayweather, and has nothing left to prove except against Pacquiao, and sorry Pacman I like you as a fighter but you would get annihilated by Mosley.

Thoughts?

OMG you get a green K for this post dude.I love were you took it great post.

[Aut_72]

Why do people say Floyd was FORCED to fight Mosley?? Did Mosley pull a gun or something?? Did he have on his contract a stipulation that he would have to face Mosley?? Did the Mafia Threat his family?? Just let me know how he was FORCED I would love to know...

[amayseng]

im one of those people who actually think castillo won that... ive watched that fight numerous times and tallied up my own card. same result each time.... toss up fight, but i feel castillo definitely did his work. but hey, whatevs... i thought collazo beat berto, i also had mosley edge out cotto... but we all know suspect judging plagues this sport.... this year already proved that.

your and my mind are on the same level.
i agree with every fight you judged exactly.

[amayseng]

this statement is in fact FALSE. for one floyd does NOT have a history of coming in over wt. the JMM fight was at a catch wt. floyd has never came in over the ww limit of 147 NEVER!!!!!!! and just because a man has never tested positive does not mean he is clean. shane has never tested positive either. does that make him a clean fighter or just a fighter that has been able to elude testing protocals. well we know the answer to that one.

floyd came in over weight for the JMM fight,

catch weight or not, he came in OVER weight,

and now has a history .
he had a contracted weight and did not make it, purposely,

get over it.

[northstar]

Yea it has been almost 3 years since floyd knocked someone out. But in the same token he has only had 2 fights in 3 years. When he stopped Hatton on 12/8/2007. His next next fight wasnt until 9/19/2009 against Marquez which we all agree was a tune up fight. So saying he hasnt knocked anyone out in 3 years doesnt quite help your arguement when he knocked out 1 out of his last 2 oppenents out. Not having the power to hurt Mosley well lets look into that aswell. Floyd has 40 fights with 25 knock outs thats a 62.5% knock out ratio. Floyd has stopped fighters such as Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gati, Henry Brusels, Phillip N'Dou, and last but not least (RIP) Diego Corrales. At that time Diego was 30-0 with 27 knock outs!!! Chico was knocked down 5 times in that fight!! No one would have ever believed that would be the out come!! Including myself I remember that fight like it was yesterday.

Now about Mr Mosley!! Great fighter and future hall of famer!! Nothing negatve to say!! However as much as anyone will hate to admit it Mayweather Sr has a good point. His son is going to give Mosley fits in the right. Mosley does best against opponents that stand in front of him and get into a slug match with him. Needless to say PBF is not doing that. They say Mosley has problem with fighters who whose movement. Well I see it like this Mosley has a harder time with boxers then his does fighters. Winky Wright for example, not a big puncher at all but would box you right out of the ring. My opinion is that floyd is alot more evasive than Wright and is quicker to the draw. This posses a problem for Mosley. Vernon Forrest (RIP) was both a fighter and a boxer. Hence the 2 losses. The Cotto fight is very questionable because Mosley actually started gaining his momentum back in the fight but then what happened? The answer is Cotto started boxing and stop fighting. This made it harder for Mosley to score thus giving Cotto the win.

May 1st will be historic but please everyone consider all facts about the fighters before choosing sides. I think alot of people are more wanting Floyd to get his first lost with less care of who gives it to him. My pick is Floyd by SD. Good luck to both fighters and Im sure my $50 will be well spent!!

Mosley does do better against fighters that come straight at him. That I agree. But you know what, that holds true for most fighters (floyd included).

[And Still]

Things to remember about Shane Mosley:

-Shane has been the #1 rated pound for pound fighter before, and has the potential to do so again in beating Floyd. In fact, he is already the top rated welterweight there is, and by defeating Floyd there would be no question that he would be the #1 pound for pound in unifying the titles at 147 (he will own all of them except for Manny Pacquiao's, and we all know Manny doesn't have the balls to face Shane, even at 140 where he would be frail and drained!)

-Shane has fought the better competition his entire career. Who did Shane Mosley ever cherry pick in his title defences? When did Shane ever fight an old, past their prime fighter in a so called "big fight"? I can name several of these for Floyd.

-Shane is a power puncher. He knocks mother****ers OUT. Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out in what, 3 years? And it wasn't even a knockout, it was a ref stoppage. Floyd has no power at 147. He might have at 135, but that isn't the case. Floyd cannot hurt Shane. It's not going to happen. Advantage Shane.

-Shane is fast and puts combinations together. Yes he is slower than he used to be, but who isn't at nearly 40 years old? He is still much faster than anyone Floyd has fought in years. Is Floyd faster? Yes, but not by much.

And finally:

I believe Shane will knock Mayweather out. In fact, I am putting 500 large on him to win by KO. The reason is simple: Shane is, in my opinion, the ONLY person at 147 that is currently capable of defeating Mayweather. He is simply too fast, can take insane amounts of damage, and too determined to let this be his retirement fight. Think about it: Shane wins, is #1 P4P again, is the only person to beat Mayweather, and has nothing left to prove except against Pacquiao, and sorry Pacman I like you as a fighter but you would get annihilated by Mosley.

Thoughts?

Sooo, if Floyd was able to beat this Terminator, that would say very good things about Floyd? Possibly?

Maybe even that Mayweather is #1 P4P?