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  • Heru
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    Paul Williams Is An Idiot

    Seriously, how do you demand purse parity when you're going to fight for the Middleweight Championship of the World.

    A win over Pavlik would get him even more leverage for fights in lower divisions, up his popularity, up his P4P status, and get him closer to Hall of Fame credentials.

    Is he happier facing Kermit Cintron for the same amount of money, but less accolades, less anticipation, and over/under 2K people in attendance?

    It's probably not his sole decision, but he definitely must have a say. I don't care what reasoning his team gives really. Take the nice cut you were getting, try to negotiate a better position, accept, and get in the ring. You bring HBO interest, but you're not the draw or the champ. Now Sergio Martinez will reap the rewards of everything that you were in the position to get (Sergio is gonna whoop Pavlik, believe it). End of rant/
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    #2
    Yeah, he's a complete moron for not taking the fight.

    but

    If Sergio pulls off the win over Pavlik, we could have Paul challenging Sergio for his belts this fall. That **** would be epic.

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      #3
      Originally posted by QUELOQUE
      Seriously, how do you demand purse parity when you're going to fight for the Middleweight Championship of the World.

      A win over Pavlik would get him even more leverage for fights in lower divisions, up his popularity, up his P4P status, and get him closer to Hall of Fame credentials.

      Is he happier facing Kermit Cintron for the same amount of money, but less accolades, less anticipation, and over/under 2K people in attendance?

      It's probably not his sole decision, but he definitely must have a say. I don't care what reasoning his team gives really. Take the nice cut you were getting, try to negotiate a better position, accept, and get in the ring. You bring HBO interest, but you're not the draw or the champ. Now Sergio Martinez will reap the rewards of everything that you were in the position to get (Sergio is gonna whoop Pavlik, believe it). End of rant/
      first of all pavlik is going to stop martinez. williams made the right choice fighting kermit that is a very winnable fight because kermit folds under pressure but can you imagine williams and his total disregard for defense meeting up with the hardest puncher he has ever faced thats a recipe for a ko loss for williams.

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      • el malo
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        a win over cintron does nothing for pwill. pwill has nothing to gain and everything to lose vs cintron, while sergio gets a shot at the middleweight titles. i guess we know who really won the paul vs sergio fight.
        Last edited by el malo; 04-06-2010, 09:11 PM.

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        • supRa
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          #5
          dunno bout u guys but i dont mind him figtin cintron...

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          • Heru
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            #6
            A Martinez rematch would be anticipated, but more than a Pavlik fight?

            And if Martinez wins, do you think Sergio's team would just accept whatever terms Williams wants like he probably did in the first fight?

            What win do you think would hold more weight for P4P and HOF status: A win over current Pavlik or a second "win" over Sergio?

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            • savorduhflavor
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              #7
              You ever hear the guy speak?

              This should come as no surprise.

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                #8
                Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                A Martinez rematch would be anticipated, but more than a Pavlik fight?

                And if Martinez wins, do you think Sergio's team would just accept whatever terms Williams wants like he probably did in the first fight?

                What win do you think would hold more weight for P4P and HOF status: A win over current Pavlik or a second "win" over Sergio?
                Considering Sergio would have just beaten Pavlik (considering your scenario) I would think that win at the MW limit would do wonders for P-dub.

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                • Heru
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ny123
                  first of all pavlik is going to stop martinez. williams made the right choice fighting kermit that is a very winnable fight because kermit folds under pressure but can you imagine williams and his total disregard for defense meeting up with the hardest puncher he has ever faced thats a recipe for a ko loss for williams.
                  Have you ever seen Pavlik counter punch? Pavlik would have gotten soundly outboxed. He's slow and has heavy feet. Williams would be able to fight him like he fought Winky, which is unload combinations and move laterally.

                  Do you take style and stance into account or are you just thinking about power and defense? Williams has shown good defense against most of the orthodox fighters he's faced.
                  Originally posted by Carlito's Way
                  a win over cintron does nothing for pwill.
                  Exactly my point.

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                  • ny123
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                    Have you ever seen Pavlik counter punch? Pavlik would have gotten soundly outboxed. He's slow and has heavy feet. Williams would be able to fight him like he fought Winky, which is unload combinations and move laterally.

                    Do you take style and stance into account or are you just thinking about power and defense? Williams has shown good defense against most of the orthodox fighters he's faced.


                    Exactly my point.
                    williams would trade with pavlik and when he does he is finished watch williams against sharmba mitchell margarito quintana martinez w matthyse and you will see how many time those smaller men were able to tag williams at will do you honestly believe that williams will move laterally in and out throughout the course of 12 rounds with pavlik with williams style of fighting? pavlik would be coming forward and williams first instinct will be to exchange and when he does lights out for williams

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