Although I do think Haye would give them a bit of trouble, I think he needs one or two fights to get himself more used to the division. He was a bit sloppy in parts, but all the other stuff was phenomenal. After he is completely used to the division, and he can take shots to the chin a bit better, then he can take them both. One or two more fights, that is all he needs.
Any "normal" Klitschko fans here?
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I stepped out for a second. Excuse me for having other things to do.
I am not taking anything away from Wlad, just questioning all the Klit fans who say Haye has no chance and will be an easy fight for both brothers - when if you look at it objectively, Haye has a lot of assets to cause some problems.
Haye wasn't in the best shape for the Ruiz fight, he hadn't sparred for 4 weeks before the fight - hence the reason he looked out of shape two weeks prior. Against Wlad or Vitali he will be in much better shape, and IMO has alot more going for him than their last opponents.Comment
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I consider myself a very normal American Klitschko fan and I don't think he has even a remote chance against either Klitschko, especially Vitali.It's come to my attention that the majority of Klit bro fans on here are "not all there".
So, I'm wondering if any Klit fans on here can somewhat redeem the piss poor reputation their fans have, and have a normal, logic filled discussion.
Okay, so...
After last night, even though it wasn't a perfect performance, Haye showed that he is a step up in level to the fat, slow, stationary fighters the Klits are used to facing.
This isn't to say that Haye is amazing, it's more a testament to how bad a state the division is in at the moment.
I believe Haye's speed, power and movement will cause problems for both brothers, especially when you couple that with the fact that the Klits aren't getting any younger, and you have to admit Haye is a dangerous fight for them.
I keep seeing Klit fans pointing out how bad Haye is, and how he won't last 2 rounds with them. Can any Klit fans out there admit Haye will be a difficult fight, or at the very least be a more difficult fight than they've had in recent years?
If he got lucky and got a big shot on Wladimir by some small miracle, he may get it done but even then it's an outside chance that happens.Comment
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JCHING, I'll PM you a detailed analysis I wrote before the fight that wasn't between Wlad and Haye. It's really long so I won't bother the people here with it (hopefully I'm allowed a long PM). It's outdated now as there's new information out there, but I think you'll like how I balance stuff.Comment
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You said Haye "made it look easy" against Ruiz. How did Wlad do against Chagaev and Chambers? Master class? Blew your mind away? Please tell me, how would you define those much superior performances against opponents much superior to Ruiz.I stepped out for a second. Excuse me for having other things to do.
I am not taking anything away from Wlad, just questioning all the Klit fans who say Haye has no chance and will be an easy fight for both brothers - when if you look at it objectively, Haye has a lot of assets to cause some problems.
Haye wasn't in the best shape for the Ruiz fight, he hadn't sparred for 4 weeks before the fight - hence the reason he looked out of shape two weeks prior. Against Wlad or Vitali he will be in much better shape, and IMO has alot more going for him than their last opponents.Comment
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Is there any normal Haye fans out there? Oh wait, he is better than Ali or what?
I would really like to see Haey face either of the K-bros but I doubt we will see that happening. If it happens, Haye's career is over. Especially if he dares to face VK. Vitali can be mean.
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british and a klit fan, although always prefered vitali to wlad. haye isnt the next best thing by a country mile, he has serious fighters in front of him and doesnt wipe the floor clean against any of them....they are all hard fights.
i fancy his chances again wlad, although if his head movement and his condition are like against ruiz i see wlad jabbing his head of before brutally knocking him out, vitali whist old is a warrior who can **** and take shots, but the truth is with haye he has a chance against them both and everyone knows that even though they might not admit it. do i see him as the saviour to the HW divison...maybe, but then there are some serious players that could easily shut his game plan down with his body shutting down from thunderous & murderous hard shots....game on....i think one thing we probably can mostly agree on, there is another person in the HW division that has it looking a bit more interesting, only time tells how it plays out but i'll be there or watching on tvComment

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