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  • KickAzz
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    #21
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    Back in November when he traveled to Germany to beat Nikolai Valuev, David Haye attempted to send a message to the heavyweight division. Unfortunately the message sent wasn’t quite as clear as he would have liked. On Saturday, at the MEN Arena in Manchester, he got a second chance to sting Boxing’s most storied division awake. [Click Here To Read More]
    here's the message I got from Haye:

    1) I lack stamina

    2) I can get hit with jabs and the right cross against a plodder

    3) I can't hit as hard as Tua

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    • HitmanHattonAY
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      #22
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Back in November when he traveled to Germany to beat Nikolai Valuev, David Haye attempted to send a message to the heavyweight division. Unfortunately the message sent wasn’t quite as clear as he would have liked. On Saturday, at the MEN Arena in Manchester, he got a second chance to sting Boxing’s most storied division awake. [Click Here To Read More]
      Originally posted by OMEGA PRIME
      really????
      Originally posted by tomjo
      It was brilliant to watch, and overall a good performance but he shouldn't fight the K brothers just yet. Wait a while, one or two more fights in the division, then fight them.
      Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
      He did add some credibility to an eventual Klit matchup.

      But I think strong is a bit too strong of a word to use.
      Originally posted by timba1988
      Yes really. Ruiz took the fight to Haye but was ultimately outclassed. Haye put a beating on a hungry bloke who wanted to win, and hadn't been stopped or seriously hurt in 14 years. Aside from the Klits, nobody is on Haye's level in the HW division.

      At the moment it stands -

      Klits


      Haye








      Everybody else.......
      Originally posted by SoldierWarrior
      How can you say that if Haye hasn't fought what the Heavyweight division has to offer like Chambers, Arreola, Povektin, Solis?
      Originally posted by etlux
      Haye keeps talking all this **** and 'sending messages' yet both Klits tried to fight him twice already and he ran and chickened out both times so .........
      Originally posted by murmagic
      it was a very good win imo
      Haye should fight Vitali at Wembley !!

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        #23
        Originally posted by etlux
        Haye keeps talking all this **** and 'sending messages' yet both Klits tried to fight him twice already and he ran and chickened out both times so .........
        I don't think Haye pulled out because he was afraid, but I do like your avatar anyway.

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        • HitmanHattonAY
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          #24
          Originally posted by SunDown
          i cant believe im about to say this but.. props to Ruiz for fighting a good fight (the first one from him i ever saw) and not grabbing/holding like i thought he would


          haye looked great, i would like to see him fight the winner of arreola v. adamek
          Originally posted by timba1988
          Chambers - Out of shape and embarrassingly poor against Wladimir Klitschko.

          Arreola - Another out of shape Klitschko victim. Was outclassed by Vitali, but showed heart and at least tried to make it a boxing match. Still, he is very one dimentional, and I would fancy Haye to give him a boxing lesson.

          Povetkin - In decent shape, but only has one gear. Does everything good, but does nothing great. I would pick the stronger, faster, and more athletic Haye to stop him.

          Solis - ? Isn't even worth a mention.

          Haye is miles ahead of the rest of the HW division in terms of skill, power, speed, athleticism and raw determination.
          Originally posted by joe strong
          haye has eliminated Barrett & ruiz from contention but may have a rematch with valuev next.he gets rid of valuev he has a voluntary defence before a mandatory vs either chagaev or meehan...he fights a klit after valuev unless he takes step aside $$$.
          Originally posted by ksan
          Solis, Arreola, Pulev, Helenius, Boytsov, Chambers, Chagaev all of them have a a pretty good chance of beating Haye,
















          all of them........
          Originally posted by English puncher
          yawn!!!!!!!!!
          Originally posted by Illdil
          Damn ruiz came to fight dude I give him alot respect for this cuz he didn't hold and he was putting very very good pressure on haye early on but I knew haye would finally get to him and I think wit the shots behinds the head was cuz ruiz was ducking when haye was throwing those looping overhand rights and it did hit some on the back of the head and some partially on the side of the head I didn't think it was intentional it was just in the heat of the brawl cuz ruiz was hurt...respect for both these guys haye has a very good future ahead of him in the HW division and the real opponents that I think that really stands in his way r the klits bros....
          Originally posted by English puncher
          You think arreola has a good chance of beating haye, c'mon, I dont see any other legit contenders for the klits throne other than povetkin and haye! and possibly tua in wlads case....you have to ask yourself if haye looked better than most the heavyweights you have been watching and the answer lies within!
          Originally posted by English puncher
          you know the score pal, i agree with every word!
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Haye is bringing some much needed excitement to the heavyweight division. Besides the Klits he can also think about fighting the Arreola-Adamek winner.

          I'd be pumped up to watch any of those matchups.
          Originally posted by Bo Tae
          Ruiz was game but his legs are gone -- the first round KO told the story.

          Time for Ruiz to retire.
          Haye is the best Heavyweight in the world !!

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            #25
            Originally posted by SunDown
            i cant believe im about to say this but.. props to Ruiz for fighting a good fight (the first one from him i ever saw) and not grabbing/holding like i thought he would


            haye looked great, i would like to see him fight the winner of arreola v. adamek
            that's basically what I was about to write

            just one difference : I knew Ruiz wouldn't hold, because I have read some articles about his training with Diaz, and Diaz just wouldn't let that happen (first time he saw him training under his eyes, Ruiz punched then clinched, and he reportedly said ''What the **** is that?'')

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              #26
              Originally posted by timba1988
              Yes really. Ruiz took the fight to Haye but was ultimately outclassed. Haye put a beating on a hungry bloke who wanted to win, and hadn't been stopped or seriously hurt in 14 years. Aside from the Klits, nobody is on Haye's level in the HW division.

              At the moment it stands -

              Klits


              Haye








              Everybody else.......
              Based on beating someone who hasn't had a good win for over five years, who is way past his prime, and who isn't rated in the top 20 by any independent rankings body? Or based on barely beating Valuev while running for most of the fight? Haye would not currently be the betting favourite to beat Povetkin (outside the UK anyway), and showed an awful lot of flaws against Ruiz, as the article points out - notably, a lack of head movement and an inability to get out of the way of, or block, a good jab. Both Klitschkos have far better and harder jabs than Ruiz, and although Haye made the fight exciting, and showed he has enough power to hurt any Heavyweight, this performance doesn't bode well for his chances against either Klitschko. Also, Haye looked exhausted at the end, which doesn't bode at all well against better class opponents.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-04-2010, 03:50 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by HitmanHattonAY
                Haye is the best Heavyweight in the world !!
                Then why is he only fighting old have-beens and bums?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by maverock
                  Then why is he only fighting old have-beens and bums?
                  HitmanHattonAY only ever posts one-line cheerleader slogans, he doesn't ever back anything he says with any analysis, so there's no point responding to his posts. Having said that, Haye had to agree to fight Ruiz in order to get a title shot against Valuev, so you can't validly criticise him for fighting Ruiz. And Valuev isn't great but he's far from being a bum - which is why Vitali offered Valuev $2.5 million to fight him.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-04-2010, 04:17 PM.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #29
                    Nice quote by Ben Dirs of the BBC:

                    Let's hope sanity prevails and that Valuev is offered some cash to step aside. Haye has blasted a lungful of air into the sport of boxing, but another match against Valuev would send the heavyweight division farting round the room like a fast-deflating balloon.

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                    • Pirao
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                      #30
                      Beating a guy who was not even top 25 is a strong message? Wow Wlad beating Chagaev and Chambers without losing a round and stopping both must have blown this guy away then
                      Last edited by Pirao; 04-04-2010, 05:40 PM.

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