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No that wasn't the same Tua that fights today. Not even close. Tua was a monster in those days and was compared to Tyson because of his frightening power and ability to end fights quickly. With one punch. He stopped prime John Ruiz in 19 seconds. And today Ruiz is still fighting for the title. You can't compare those two versions of Tua. People are going by what they see in Tua now. At hat time Ibeabuchi impressively beat two highly rated heavyweights. How he would have done after that we'll never know but the potential was there. And from what I have seen he's much better than any of the current heavyweight contenders fighting today..
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Doesn't Tua have the same power still? Look at his fight with Shane Cameron, just two fights ago. Tua completely humiliated Shane Cameron. Also, right now Tua seems to be hungry because he's come to fights in much better shape. Now he's a much more experienced fighter. And you're right, Tua would beat any of the heavyweight contenders right now. Including the WBA Champ, David Haye.Comment
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Coulda, woulda, but didn't......so enough of he "would" be ruling the division today.
It didn't happen for him as a result of his own actions and I am not going to give him credit for the possibility that he could have beaten fighter who he didn't.Comment
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The point is that people like Lennox Lewis unloading flush on Tua relentlessly couldn't even get him to blink, and he was universally feared for carrying truly nightmarish power, yet Ibeabuchi stodd right in front of him for a 12 rounds and gave back just as much as Tua could ship out.
That alone speaks volumes. It doesn't make Ibeabuchi any ATG by any means but he had the stamina, chin, durability and offensive aresenal to do it. Also says a lot about his heart and determination, the man obviously felt no fear whatsoever.Comment
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ATG? No ****ing way. Why? His brain. His head. Ike's mental problems followed him around and that's why he's in the can, joasting away his life.
Now, yeah, he had a great chin, great power, he was a good durable heavyweight but just because he stood in front of a prime tua doesn't mean I'm about to compare him to george foreman, who would absolutely wipe the floor with any version of ike.
The specimen has to be complete to be a champion. That means no mental midget, Ike is a mental midget otherwise the downfall would have never happened.Comment
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No he isn't. He gets a lot of hype in hypothetical fights but other fighters around here get way more. Nobody makes Ike out to be invincible.Comment
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Tua is not in better shape now than he was then. His stamina is not what it was. Not even close to what it was then. He's also much slower now and doesn't even throw half the amount of punches he threw back then. An opponent like Shane Cameron proves nothing. I was actually referring to Ibeabuchi of that time beating any of the current contenders today. Tua is finished as a top heavyweight. His careful selection of opponents is proof of that.Last edited by Calilloyd; 04-03-2010, 12:36 PM.Comment
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Youve never heard of the eye test before? When there are arguments like this, some people will say that we will never know what someone couldve done but what did you see with your own eyes? Most people's saw someone crazy talented and they think he wouldve been great. Youve never heard people talk about passing the eye test? Like if Roy Jones went to prison early on, you could also say that you dont know how he wouldve turned out but if you saw him then you know that he had crazy talent that wouldve been hell for anyone to **** with had he continuedComment
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