A good read on ROCKY MARCIANO's punching power.

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  • as214
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    #21
    Originally posted by hectari
    ^lmao vinny.

    But seriously Italian fighters got mad heart! Only if they had a fighter who had the chin of marciano, the power of marciano, the heart of arturo gatti and the slick skill of paulie malinaggi then that would be something.


    Right now Ricardo Mayorga has the best chin in boxing period he kinda reminds me of the old school fighters except he doesnt train as hard.

    Did you see gatti when he fought oscar? oscar sleary outweighed him and was taller but gatti went down and didnt wanna stop and he even rocked oscar, it looked like a featherweight fighting a welterweight thats how much they looked in difference but gatti didnt stop his corner had to throw the towel in. I feel if Gatti had buddy mcgirt in his corner when he fought oscar things would have been a bit more different.

    I remember that fight with Oscar!! Im glad they stopped it though because ARturo has so much heart he would have been killed before he ever allowed himself to quit.. With Italians it's in the blood!!

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    • hectari
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      #22
      Originally posted by as214
      I remember that fight with Oscar!! Im glad they stopped it though because ARturo has so much heart he would have been killed before he ever allowed himself to quit.. With Italians it's in the blood!!

      Man gatti is gonna terrorize mayweather.

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        #23
        Truly the perfect fighter, a top-knotch slugger with a chin of granite and unlimited stamina. What could anyone do but run and gun and pray that he never lands. In a 12 round fight, Ali might take him... in 15 rounds no one in history could.

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        • j
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          #24
          the initial post was a good read.

          but, what i find funny is how some people, like teddy atlas, go on about how punchers are born and not made. i would call that nothing more than pure b#ll****. i happen to know a few people who happened to develope a powerful punch, and were not naturally born with the "gift" of heavy hands. hell, even jack dempsey himself dedicates a whole chapter to this myth. just wait 'till tszyu divulges some of his "secrets" when he officially retires. and the answers might surprise you.

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            #25
            Didn't realise this was an old thread, interesting article.

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            • hectari
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              #26
              Originally posted by j
              the initial post was a good read.

              but, what i find funny is how some people, like teddy atlas, go on about how punchers are born and not made. i would call that nothing more than pure b#ll****. i happen to know a few people who happened to develope a powerful punch, and were not naturally born with the "gift" of heavy hands. hell, even jack dempsey himself dedicates a whole chapter to this myth. just wait 'till tszyu divulges some of his "secrets" when he officially retires. and the answers might surprise you.
              ^really thought they are born and not made! just like some people got rhytyhm and some dont! just like some people can draw and paint art and some people can barely paint a stick figure it is a gift!

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              • tommyhearns804
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                #27
                What color was the guy who wrote this story?White as we all know.Just another attempt by a white guy to build up a fighter of his race.
                How many 240 pound black fighters did Marciano knock out in his career?How many did he fight period?Most of the fighters Marciano fought were other small white guys like himself.So knocking out a 180 pound fighter using small gloves isn't impessive at all.
                Let me tell you how pathetic Marciano's power was.Archie Moore started his career at middleweight.155 to 160 pounds.Moore stayed at this weight for 8 years and was knocked down at least 30 times in his career and stopped on several occations by other middleweights in one or two rounds.Moore was in his 20s when he was being beat and knocked out by these middleweights so his body was stronger and his chin was better(which isn't saying much since he was knocked down more than any other figher in any weight class who ever became champion)When Moore fought Marciano he was at least 42 years old some sources say he was at least 3 years older than that.In any case the older you get the less fluid you have around your brain.That means you get knocked down easier,you get concussions easier and you could suffer brain damage easier.But yet it took Maricano 9 rounds of punching just to stopped a aged warrior who's chin was glass to began with but now worse because he was older.
                Charles was also a natual middleweight who stayed at this weight class for around 7 years.Charles was also knocked out several times by middelweights and knocked down many more times.In their first fight Charles went the 15 round limit.If Maricano's power was so great wouldn't it be easier for him to knock out to blow up middleweights who were both past their physical prime?
                Jones was only knocked down 2 times in his career and stopped 2 times which means his chin is light years better than Moores.How many people in believe it would take a prime Tyson,Foreman,Lewis,Bowe,Tua ect ect ect 9 rounds to knock out a 40 year old Jones?And i mean all of them actually landing power punches on Jones for 9 rounds.
                These little stories just show how some people try to use ******ity to build up their points.Like the stories that Duran could knock out a fully grown healthy horse with one punch.To say Maricano was powerful for a 180 pounder would be saying to much.If Marciano was knocking out fighters like Holyfields the Toneys you know people of that nature you could say he punched hard for a guy his size.But he didn't and as i said fighters from his era wore smaller gloves.Smaller gloves=more knock downs and knock outs,bigger gloves= less knock downs and knock outs .That is why fighters spar in big gloves.
                You can't compare anything Marciano did to anything fighters do now.Maricano wasn't the hardest punching heavyweight because he isn't a heavyweight but a cruiserweight.You can't say Maricano punched hard for his size because Marciano basically fought stiffs his whole career.Just as people need to get off Tysons nutts people also need to get off Marciano's nutts.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                  What color was the guy who wrote this story?White as we all know.Just another attempt by a white guy to build up a fighter of his race.
                  How many 240 pound black fighters did Marciano knock out in his career?How many did he fight period?Most of the fighters Marciano fought were other small white guys like himself.So knocking out a 180 pound fighter using small gloves isn't impessive at all.
                  Let me tell you how pathetic Marciano's power was.Archie Moore started his career at middleweight.155 to 160 pounds.Moore stayed at this weight for 8 years and was knocked down at least 30 times in his career and stopped on several occations by other middleweights in one or two rounds.Moore was in his 20s when he was being beat and knocked out by these middleweights so his body was stronger and his chin was better(which isn't saying much since he was knocked down more than any other figher in any weight class who ever became champion)When Moore fought Marciano he was at least 42 years old some sources say he was at least 3 years older than that.In any case the older you get the less fluid you have around your brain.That means you get knocked down easier,you get concussions easier and you could suffer brain damage easier.But yet it took Maricano 9 rounds of punching just to stopped a aged warrior who's chin was glass to began with but now worse because he was older.
                  Charles was also a natual middleweight who stayed at this weight class for around 7 years.Charles was also knocked out several times by middelweights and knocked down many more times.In their first fight Charles went the 15 round limit.If Maricano's power was so great wouldn't it be easier for him to knock out to blow up middleweights who were both past their physical prime?
                  Jones was only knocked down 2 times in his career and stopped 2 times which means his chin is light years better than Moores.How many people in believe it would take a prime Tyson,Foreman,Lewis,Bowe,Tua ect ect ect 9 rounds to knock out a 40 year old Jones?And i mean all of them actually landing power punches on Jones for 9 rounds.
                  These little stories just show how some people try to use ******ity to build up their points.Like the stories that Duran could knock out a fully grown healthy horse with one punch.To say Maricano was powerful for a 180 pounder would be saying to much.If Marciano was knocking out fighters like Holyfields the Toneys you know people of that nature you could say he punched hard for a guy his size.But he didn't and as i said fighters from his era wore smaller gloves.Smaller gloves=more knock downs and knock outs,bigger gloves= less knock downs and knock outs .That is why fighters spar in big gloves.
                  You can't compare anything Marciano did to anything fighters do now.Maricano wasn't the hardest punching heavyweight because he isn't a heavyweight but a cruiserweight.You can't say Maricano punched hard for his size because Marciano basically fought stiffs his whole career.Just as people need to get off Tysons nutts people also need to get off Marciano's nutts.

                  Wow, not only are you playing the race card to squeeze out any reason to hate on someone but you are also wrong about Marciano never fighting larger men. Jerry Humphrey Jackson was 254 lbs and 2-0 when he fought Rocky who was 5-0... after getting knocked out in the first round he never fought professionally again. So don't play the size argument either. He was outweighed by 31 of his 49 opponents which is about 2/3 of them. Opinion is one thing but when you got no ground to stand on for your argument and start accusing someone of liking a fighter based on the color of their skin you are overstepping the boundaries of a civilized, opinionated discussion and just being plain ignorant.

                  And if the gloves are what knocked people out, how come no one could knock Rocky out back then? Because he was the best, no one of his time could beat him regardless of skin color and there is no other heavyweight in history that can make that claim. No matter how much an armchair critic like yourself wants to berrate him, you cannot take away his achievements. Loe Louis and Jack Dempsey both said Rocky was the beest fighter, so you pretend to know more about boxing than 2 of the best heavyweights who ever fought? Keep dreaming... keep playing the race card, it's all you got on this one.

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                  • hectari
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                    What color was the guy who wrote this story?White as we all know.Just another attempt by a white guy to build up a fighter of his race.
                    How many 240 pound black fighters did Marciano knock out in his career?How many did he fight period?Most of the fighters Marciano fought were other small white guys like himself.So knocking out a 180 pound fighter using small gloves isn't impessive at all.
                    Let me tell you how pathetic Marciano's power was.Archie Moore started his career at middleweight.155 to 160 pounds.Moore stayed at this weight for 8 years and was knocked down at least 30 times in his career and stopped on several occations by other middleweights in one or two rounds.Moore was in his 20s when he was being beat and knocked out by these middleweights so his body was stronger and his chin was better(which isn't saying much since he was knocked down more than any other figher in any weight class who ever became champion)When Moore fought Marciano he was at least 42 years old some sources say he was at least 3 years older than that.In any case the older you get the less fluid you have around your brain.That means you get knocked down easier,you get concussions easier and you could suffer brain damage easier.But yet it took Maricano 9 rounds of punching just to stopped a aged warrior who's chin was glass to began with but now worse because he was older.
                    Charles was also a natual middleweight who stayed at this weight class for around 7 years.Charles was also knocked out several times by middelweights and knocked down many more times.In their first fight Charles went the 15 round limit.If Maricano's power was so great wouldn't it be easier for him to knock out to blow up middleweights who were both past their physical prime?
                    Jones was only knocked down 2 times in his career and stopped 2 times which means his chin is light years better than Moores.How many people in believe it would take a prime Tyson,Foreman,Lewis,Bowe,Tua ect ect ect 9 rounds to knock out a 40 year old Jones?And i mean all of them actually landing power punches on Jones for 9 rounds.
                    These little stories just show how some people try to use ******ity to build up their points.Like the stories that Duran could knock out a fully grown healthy horse with one punch.To say Maricano was powerful for a 180 pounder would be saying to much.If Marciano was knocking out fighters like Holyfields the Toneys you know people of that nature you could say he punched hard for a guy his size.But he didn't and as i said fighters from his era wore smaller gloves.Smaller gloves=more knock downs and knock outs,bigger gloves= less knock downs and knock outs .That is why fighters spar in big gloves.
                    You can't compare anything Marciano did to anything fighters do now.Maricano wasn't the hardest punching heavyweight because he isn't a heavyweight but a cruiserweight.You can't say Maricano punched hard for his size because Marciano basically fought stiffs his whole career.Just as people need to get off Tysons nutts people also need to get off Marciano's nutts.


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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                      What color was the guy who wrote this story?White as we all know.Just another attempt by a white guy to build up a fighter of his race.
                      How many 240 pound black fighters did Marciano knock out in his career?How many did he fight period?Most of the fighters Marciano fought were other small white guys like himself.So knocking out a 180 pound fighter using small gloves isn't impessive at all.
                      Let me tell you how pathetic Marciano's power was.Archie Moore started his career at middleweight.155 to 160 pounds.Moore stayed at this weight for 8 years and was knocked down at least 30 times in his career and stopped on several occations by other middleweights in one or two rounds.Moore was in his 20s when he was being beat and knocked out by these middleweights so his body was stronger and his chin was better(which isn't saying much since he was knocked down more than any other figher in any weight class who ever became champion)When Moore fought Marciano he was at least 42 years old some sources say he was at least 3 years older than that.In any case the older you get the less fluid you have around your brain.That means you get knocked down easier,you get concussions easier and you could suffer brain damage easier.But yet it took Maricano 9 rounds of punching just to stopped a aged warrior who's chin was glass to began with but now worse because he was older.
                      Charles was also a natual middleweight who stayed at this weight class for around 7 years.Charles was also knocked out several times by middelweights and knocked down many more times.In their first fight Charles went the 15 round limit.If Maricano's power was so great wouldn't it be easier for him to knock out to blow up middleweights who were both past their physical prime?
                      Jones was only knocked down 2 times in his career and stopped 2 times which means his chin is light years better than Moores.How many people in believe it would take a prime Tyson,Foreman,Lewis,Bowe,Tua ect ect ect 9 rounds to knock out a 40 year old Jones?And i mean all of them actually landing power punches on Jones for 9 rounds.
                      These little stories just show how some people try to use ******ity to build up their points.Like the stories that Duran could knock out a fully grown healthy horse with one punch.To say Maricano was powerful for a 180 pounder would be saying to much.If Marciano was knocking out fighters like Holyfields the Toneys you know people of that nature you could say he punched hard for a guy his size.But he didn't and as i said fighters from his era wore smaller gloves.Smaller gloves=more knock downs and knock outs,bigger gloves= less knock downs and knock outs .That is why fighters spar in big gloves.
                      You can't compare anything Marciano did to anything fighters do now.Maricano wasn't the hardest punching heavyweight because he isn't a heavyweight but a cruiserweight.You can't say Maricano punched hard for his size because Marciano basically fought stiffs his whole career.Just as people need to get off Tysons nutts people also need to get off Marciano's nutts.
                      lol,,,this coming from one of the board racists

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