Originally posted by jrosales13
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Nobody has a problem with Andre Ward employing Victor Conte? Double Standards Much?
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Originally posted by Siggy View Postso basically wada becomes your daddy? that sht aint gonna fly in pro sports in america
An athletes career isn't that long so say, 10 years (which is a long time for a pro athlete to even last that long)...isn't so bad.
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Originally posted by Benny Leonard View PostBoxing would have to follow the strictest testing standards out there. That's what I'm in favor of. That's why I'm not throwing Victor Conte away and think they should gather all those that cheated the system and got away with it piled in a room and lay all the guidelines they used to beat the test so that the testers can improve on it. Plus, maybe have some of the athletes stay in the game as spiesto give them a heads-up.
And I think it’s only going to get worse. Wait until Genetic engineering is in full effect. Then we can just throw out testing because it will just take humans into another level of evolution. And instead of cheating it may be called "improvement" of human beings.
And maybe, just maybe, if humans do evolve for the better, Boxing will be gone. We will become One big Spiritual evolved unit that leaves such things behind. Then again, I watched that new Star Trek movie...yeah...and they still fight in the future to protect themselves so....tree-huggers can kiss my ass because it's not a reality I think is likely. I was a little worried good old fashion sex was going to be eliminated as well but thankfully it still seems to be going good...although I'll be long gone by then.
Maybe Conte can serve a purpose as a consultant for the authorities, but under no circumstances should a guy with such a shady character and background be allowed to work with athletes again.
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Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Postandre shouldnt have employed this guy in the 1st place...people are gonna have questions now about andre ward and start making false accusations.
Pac seems to have a great team around him so why did Ward have to go with Conte?
Even known and well respected Mackie Shilstone would have been a wise choice.
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I think its grounds to worry in 3 years when Ward and Chad Dawson meet to unify the LHW belts and Dawson asks for OST and Ward brings out a list of excuses as big as Pacquiaos was. If hes accused and agrees to testing then so what???
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostConte is a criminal scumbag who has had time behind bars. He should be banned from working with athletes. Him working with Ward and Chambers is mindboggling. I question those fighters judgement. Everything they achieve will be su****ious.
Maybe Conte can serve a purpose as a consultant for the authorities, but under no circumstances should a guy with such a shady character and background be allowed to work with athletes again.
But I do agree; once your caught, your out. Maybe. But then that would have to be the same with athletes as well: One strike and your out. It doesn't tend to work like that. Usually you serve your suspension or time in jail and you can get a second chance.
By the way, what's your thoughts on Pac not doing the tests?
Or how come this hasn't been brought up more in boxing...starting with the HWs on down?
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Originally posted by Benny Leonard View PostYeah; I didn't get that either. Conte may know his **** but so do many others.
Pac seems to have a great team around him so why did Ward have to go with Conte?
Even known and well respected Mackie Shilstone would have been a wise choice.
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostOf course is a double standard. This is old news I been saying this for months now.
The majority of people are biased they dont care who does OST. They only care about their own agenda.
That is why not all but the majority who do all this Pacroid and diss Pac are hypocrites cuz some of them are fans of Ward and is bull****.
If Ward turned down 40 Million to fight Abraham you bet ur ass people would think he is hiding something just like Pac.
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Originally posted by BritishBoxing92 View Postandre shouldnt have employed this guy in the 1st place...people are gonna have questions now about andre ward and start making false accusations.
Originally posted by htown00 View PostHow do you know that most that diss Pac are also a fan of Ward? Also imo most of ones that diss pac like myself would be highly su****ious if Ward turned down a random drug test for a big payday. I don't even see how the same logic applies to this situation.
When you are a top athlete in the 21st century and you refuse random blood testing without leeway and give different excuses on why you dont want to be tested then do not cry when people look at you with a su****ious eye.
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