Nobody has a problem with Andre Ward employing Victor Conte? Double Standards Much?

[Gutz]

no they arent. people who have been in the sport for decades can look at a fighters body and the changes its made combined withthe change in his performance from past to current, to determine that.

so its far frombaseless. and actaully, if you want to get into it. how many of roaches fighters juiced?

you are trying to say there isnt a case of quilty by association with pac, well yes there is and i just stated it

your just a pac-hater.. you dont know **** about boxing.. its not hard for a 16yr to grow from 106 to 147 at age 30..


lets not forget when Floyd was 16yr he weight the same as Pac... but by the time he was 30 he was fighting Oscar at 154..


So the truth is that Floyd is really on Peds.. cause he alot bigger then Pac...

[boxnfan4lyfe88]

lol wat are u talkin about he did take the urine test read up get ur facts str8 dont try 2 feed people ill info

[BattlingNelson]

Um... Getting caught translates into not beating the testing policies. Obviously, if you weren't caught, that'd be considered beating the test.

Because they tested negative. WADA test for all performance enhancing drugs on a year round random basis, making doping nigh impossible. If you can't form a doping/work out cycle, you can't dope.

WADA's testing is easily beatable regardless of it being random and year-round as you say. Most importantly they cannot test you if they cant find you so as long as the athletes don't supply an up-to-date where-about scheme you can easily beat the procedure.

[Siggy]

WADA's testing is easily beatable regardless of it being random and year-round as you say. Most importantly they cannot test you if they cant find you so as long as the athletes don't supply an up-to-date where-about scheme you can easily beat the procedure.

wada should invest in ankle monitors, gps tracking systems, private investigators, surveillance equipment and black helicopters.

they're testing process would be fool proof.

[BattlingNelson]

wada should invest in ankle monitors, gps tracking systems, private investigators, surveillance equipment and black helicopters.

they're testing process would be fool proof.

And highly expen$ive.

[Portman]

Have you perhaps considered the fact that Pacquiao and Mayweather have different body types? they're not identical bodywise, therefore it's not factual to state the fact that they was the same weight as 16 and comparing it now.. Some people have an easier time gaining weight than others due to the body type.. Just saying.

[Ray*]

WADA's testing is easily beatable regardless of it being random and year-round as you say. Most importantly they cannot test you if they cant find you so as long as the athletes don't supply an up-to-date where-about scheme you can easily beat the procedure.

According to the anti-doping agency rules you have to tell them where you are every 3 hours of the day, They keep track of your movement, Any athlete under a testing procedure goes through that so any chance of an athlete disappearing is very remote since they get ban if they dont keep for with the update.

[BattlingNelson]

According to the anti-doping agency rules you have to tell them where you are every 3 hours of the day, They keep track of your movement, Any athlete under a testing procedure goes through that so any chance of an athlete disappearing is very remote since they get ban if they dont keep for with the update.

Really? That's news to me. I thought that scheme was only employed by the UCI (Pro cycling).

Do they sanction the athletes if those whereabouts are not provided?

[Siggy]

According to the anti-doping agency rules you have to tell them where you are every 3 hours of the day, They keep track of your movement, Any athlete under a testing procedure goes through that so any chance of an athlete disappearing is very remote since they get ban if they dont keep for with the update.

even out of competition testing?
isnt that when testing should be done most?

[Ray*]

All this steroid talk with Pacquiao & Mayweather, people have forgotten that there is actually a boxer who is using the godfather of steroids in american sports Victor Conte?

Andre Ward still to this very day uses products created by Victor Conte founder of BALCO, the most prominent & infamous steroid manufacturer in american sports history. Eddie Chambers also uses Victor Conte. I find it ironic that a fighter like pacquiao who has zero connection to anything steroid related & has no evidence against him is being thrown under the bus publicly yet you have 2 fighters using products, services, & expertise of Victor Conte & you dont hear a peep about them.

Then you have the abraham vs dirrell taking place in michigan, where they did not do a drug test & where dirrell refused a urine test after the fight, yet people were blasting pacquiao & his urine tests & the fact that there was no testing in texas vs clottey.

Where's the outrage for Andre Ward & Eddie Chambers? Where's the outrage for Andre Dirrell REFUSING TO TAKE A URINE TEST? Where's the outrage for the fight not having steroid tests?

Or does it only apply to non american fighters because according to floyd they cant be trusted?


Talk about double standards.




If you have hate in your heart......

Let it out.

This is why OST needs to be implement into boxing, People can cry all day long about different things without trying to make any changes. Why Victor conte is allowed to work in sport is still baffling and for him to be working with athletes still is a shock, You would have thought he would be working for the testers who might be able to use his Knowledge...But since alot of people are oppose to change then this is the kind of things that would continue to happen.