Anyone Know The Super Six Tiebreakers?

[Hitman932]

I am curious what will happen in the case of a tie for the final spot.

Obviously I think head to head result would be the first tiebreaker, but what if the two fighters tied did not fight in the round robin stage?

Also, what happens in the event of a 3 way tie.

Here is the scenario I was thinking about:

Ward beats Green and Dirrell and finishes with 6 points.
Abraham knocks out Froch and finishes with 6 points
Froch loses to Kessler and Abraham and finishes with 2 points
Kessler beats Froch and loses to Green and finishes with 2 points
Dirrell loses to Ward and finishes with 2 points
Green loses to Ward and beats Kessler and finishes with 2 points


Obviously that's worst case scenario for the network and if you work a KO result in the points can change.

What the hell would happen in the above scenario?

[Tom_Tocca]

I am curious what will happen in the case of a tie for the final spot.

Obviously I think head to head result would be the first tiebreaker, but what if the two fighters tied did not fight in the round robin stage?

Also, what happens in the event of a 3 way tie.

Here is the scenario I was thinking about:

Ward beats Green and Dirrell and finishes with 6 points.
Abraham knocks out Froch and finishes with 6 points
Froch loses to Kessler and Abraham and finishes with 2 points
Kessler beats Froch and loses to Green and finishes with 2 points
Dirrell loses to Ward and finishes with 2 points
Green loses to Ward and beats Kessler and finishes with 2 points


Obviously that's worst case scenario for the network and if you work a KO result in the points can change.

What the hell would happen in the above scenario?

Then it's going to the scorecards of each and every fight those with 2 points were involved.

Who ever has won most of the rounds will get to the next round (mind you that point deductions ain't gonna work here).

Clearly, Green has the biggest disadvantage here.

Here's the example:
Kessler won 2,2,1 rounds vs Ward (5) - wins 7,8,6 vs. Froch (21) and 6,5,5 vs. Green (16)...
...Kessler would finish with 42 rounds won in 3 fights

Dirrell won 7,5,5 rounds vs. Froch (17) - won 8,7,7 rounds vs. AA (22) - and 4,3,5 vs. Ward (12)...
...Dirrell would finish with 49 rounds won in 3 fights

Froch won 5,7,7 rounds vs. Dirrell (19) - wins 5,4,6 vs. Kessler (15) - and 4,5,4 vs. AA (13)
...Froch would finish with 47 rounds won in 3 fights

Green had no fight in the opener - wins 3,4,4 vs. Ward (11) - and 6,7,7 vs. Kessler (36)
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Dirrell would advance in 3rd place and Froch in 4th place...
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But with the first fights on you scenario IMO if Kessler were to beat Froch, who would then go on loosing to AA by KO, he would also beat Green.

So the final ranking would be this:

1. Ward - 6 points
2. Abraham - 6 points
3. Kessler - 4 points
4. Froch - 2 points
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Therefor I would hope that if my scenario sets in that in the last fight of stage 3 Dirrell goes on to beat/draw Ward.

This would see the follow ranking:

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 5 points
3. Kessler - 4 points
4. Dirrell - 3 points

or

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 4 points
3. Dirrell - 4 points
4. Kessler - 4 points

[Hitman932]

Therefor I would hope that if my scenario sets in that in the last fight of stage 3 Dirrell goes on to beat/draw Ward.

This would see the follow ranking:

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 5 points
3. Kessler - 4 points
4. Dirrell - 3 points

or

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 4 points
3. Dirrell - 4 points
4. Kessler - 4 points

I agree my scenario is unlikely and it is the extreme but it is a possibility.

I do think Kessler beating Froch is a good possibility and I also agree that if he is in good enough form to do that he should also beat Green.

That result just sucks for Dirrell. He is so much better than Froch and getting left out because he was robbed against Froch and lost to the best fighter in Ward would be a shame.

I bet if Ward wins his second fight and locks up his advancing he would just love to let Dirrell have an automatic 2 points and just wait to fight him later.

Do you have any idea if there are predetermined locations for the semi final and final bouts? Or will the higher seeded fighters get hometown advantage?

Thanks for the info.

[Hitman932]

Also. It seems like a flaw in the Super Six System that a DQ only counts as 2 instead of 3.

In theory this gives every fighter who may be on the verge of being knocked out incentive to commit a foul and cost their opponent a point.

Not saying this has anything to do with AA-Dirrell. Just something that occurred to me.

For sports betting purposes a DQ is treated the same as a KO or TKO.

[BattlingNelson]

Then it's going to the scorecards of each and every fight those with 2 points were involved.

Who ever has won most of the rounds will get to the next round (mind you that point deductions ain't gonna work here).

Clearly, Green has the biggest disadvantage here.

Here's the example:
Kessler won 2,2,1 rounds vs Ward (5) - wins 7,8,6 vs. Froch (21) and 6,5,5 vs. Green (16)...
...Kessler would finish with 42 rounds won in 3 fights

Dirrell won 7,5,5 rounds vs. Froch (17) - won 8,7,7 rounds vs. AA (22) - and 4,3,5 vs. Ward (12)...
...Dirrell would finish with 49 rounds won in 3 fights

Froch won 5,7,7 rounds vs. Dirrell (19) - wins 5,4,6 vs. Kessler (15) - and 4,5,4 vs. AA (13)
...Froch would finish with 47 rounds won in 3 fights

Green had no fight in the opener - wins 3,4,4 vs. Ward (11) - and 6,7,7 vs. Kessler (36)
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Dirrell would advance in 3rd place and Froch in 4th place...
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But with the first fights on you scenario IMO if Kessler were to beat Froch, who would then go on loosing to AA by KO, he would also beat Green.

So the final ranking would be this:

1. Ward - 6 points
2. Abraham - 6 points
3. Kessler - 4 points
4. Froch - 2 points
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Therefor I would hope that if my scenario sets in that in the last fight of stage 3 Dirrell goes on to beat/draw Ward.

This would see the follow ranking:

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 5 points
3. Kessler - 4 points
4. Dirrell - 3 points

or

1. Abraham - 6 points
2. Ward - 4 points
3. Dirrell - 4 points
4. Kessler - 4 points

Is that official?

I heard that they have tiebreakers for everything, but I never heard how they worked.

[Tom_Tocca]

I agree my scenario is unlikely and it is the extreme but it is a possibility.

I do think Kessler beating Froch is a good possibility and I also agree that if he is in good enough form to do that he should also beat Green.

That result just sucks for Dirrell. He is so much better than Froch and getting left out because he was robbed against Froch and lost to the best fighter in Ward would be a shame.

I bet if Ward wins his second fight and locks up his advancing he would just love to let Dirrell have an automatic 2 points and just wait to fight him later.

Do you have any idea if there are predetermined locations for the semi final and final bouts? Or will the higher seeded fighters get hometown advantage?

Thanks for the info.

Only thing I know is that due Abraham giving away hometown advantage vs. Froch, he'll get a possible semi-final in Germany.

This other semi will then definately happen in the US.

Though, AA might lose to Froch and gets send home after the first stage.

If everything goes the way I have predict it, the semis would be the follows:

Abraham vs. Kessler (in Germany)
Ward vs. Froch (in the US)

or (if Dirrell gets a draw/win in his last fight)

Abraham vs. Kessler/Dirrell (in Germany)
Ward vs. Dirrell/Kessler (in the US)

[BattlingNelson]

Also. It seems like a flaw in the Super Six System that a DQ only counts as 2 instead of 3.

In theory this gives every fighter who may be on the verge of being knocked out incentive to commit a foul and cost their opponent a point.

Not saying this has anything to do with AA-Dirrell. Just something that occurred to me.

For sports betting purposes a DQ is treated the same as a KO or TKO.

Yeah. You get 2 points for a win and a bonuspoint for a KO/tko. This can give improper incentives I agree.

[BattlingNelson]

Only thing I know is that due Abraham giving away hometown advantage vs. Froch, he'll get a possible semi-final in Germany.

This other semi will then definately happen in the US.

Though, AA might lose to Froch and gets send home after the first stage.

If everything goes the way I have predict it, the semis would be the follows:

Abraham vs. Kessler (in Germany)
Ward vs. Froch (in the US)

or (if Dirrell gets a draw/win in his last fight)

Abraham vs. Kessler/Dirrell (in Germany)
Ward vs. Dirrell/Kessler (in the US)

If Ward and Kessler get to rematch in the semis I'll bet my house that it'll be in Denmark.

[Tom_Tocca]

Is that official?

I heard that they have tiebreakers for everything, but I never heard how they worked.

Yeah, that's the way it works...

1. head to head
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2. rounds won total in the 1st stage
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3. coin toss

[Tom_Tocca]

If Ward and Kessler get to rematch in the semis I'll bet my house that it'll be in Denmark.

No, it won't. Hershman already verified that at least 1 semi final would be staged in the US and if AA advances to the semis, one would go down in Germany...