Double Standard with hitting while an opponent is down.

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  • oc9979
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sin City
    I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights..
    here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round.



    2:05 into the video.. first KO.. Cotto is down and Margarito still punches him.


    and I couldn't find the one where Mayweather did it but it was against Gatti.

    I believe he did it again as well in the rematch too.
    I am a cotto fan and when i saw that i was pissed but then i thought well he lost anyways

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    • check hook
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      #22
      Originally posted by RicDaRula
      I doubt anyone of those times you have mentioned were as egregious as this......here is my proof........where is yours to show it was ever this blatant and they DIDN'T get dq'd??

      [IMG]http://www.********boxing.com/images/004IMG_6970.jpg[/IMG]


      exactly.....sometimes it is very blatant.......usually if it';s duriong a barrage of punches and the guy is falling all over the ropes it's ok..........but when you hit a guy he slips....you look over him for a second or 2 then unload that is grounds for a DQ.........

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      • KickAzz
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        #23
        Originally posted by Sin City
        I've seen many people get away with it IN FRONT of the referee, Pacquiao, Margarito and Mayweather are some of them. If you are going to DQ someone for doing it, then everyone who does it should be DQ'd. Why is it that some people get a pass and other don't though? For the record, I don't agree with it and DO think Abraham should've been DQ'd, I was rooting for him to win. I'm just saying.. you gonna make a big deal of it when someone else does it, it's bull****.
        there is no double standard.

        AA is a german star and got DQed.

        RJJ is an american superstar and got DQed.

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        • Sin City
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          #24
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Roy jones got disqualified for hitting a fighter that went down because of a punch(Not a slip) and RJJ was undefeated and loved by almost everyone, How is that for your double-standard??
          Jones DQ was as warranted as Abrahams.. Yeah he went down from a punch but he was down on his knee already and got hit twice again.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #25
            Originally posted by Sin City
            I can't see what you posted. but my proof is in the fights..
            here's one of the ones I mentioned. It's the 3rd KD in the first round.



            .
            The pac shot was definetely a foul. It wasn't even mentioned by Cortez so I wonder what would have happened had JMM stayed down.

            Some other examples here:


            1: Cantatore-Jensen

            This was for the EBU cruiserweight title. Jensen was challenging cantatore on his hometurf in Italy and surprisingly got away with this (0.50):

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            2: Soto-Lorenzo.
            Referee Cortez took a terrific beating in the media following this DQ:

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            3: Kristjansen-Khan

            Khan the hometown favourite gets away with hitting his opponent despite him being down (5.00)

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            • flexxx145
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              #26
              Originally posted by Thread Stealer
              Hitting a guy when he's down is a very common foul in boxing. Usually refs don't do anything, or just give a warning. Occasionally they take a point away.

              Usually the only time a fighter is DQ'd or it ends in a no-contest is when the guy who gets hit can't or won't go on.

              I'm not overly critical of Abraham for what he did. He was frustrated and lost his composure and ****ed up. It happens. Lennox Lewis hit Mike Acey three times when he was down and Acey got up. All Lewis got was a warning. Terry Norris hit Joe Walker when he was down and Walker couldn't continue, so Norris got DQ'd. Norris did it against Leonard and got a warning. He did it to Waters and got a point deducted.

              If Dirrell didn't get so ****ed up by that punch (or didn't act, depending on your viewpoint), it would've just been one of many cases where a guy hit a downed opponent and got a warning or point deduction.
              You pretty much summed it up right there. Good job!

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              • Allucard
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                #27
                Originally posted by Thread Stealer
                Hitting a guy when he's down is a very common foul in boxing. Usually refs don't do anything, or just give a warning. Occasionally they take a point away.

                Usually the only time a fighter is DQ'd or it ends in a no-contest is when the guy who gets hit can't or won't go on.

                I'm not overly critical of Abraham for what he did. He was frustrated and lost his composure and ****ed up. It happens. Lennox Lewis hit Mike Acey three times when he was down and Acey got up. All Lewis got was a warning. Terry Norris hit Joe Walker when he was down and Walker couldn't continue, so Norris got DQ'd. Norris did it against Leonard and got a warning. He did it to Waters and got a point deducted.

                If Dirrell didn't get so ****ed up by that punch (or didn't act, depending on your viewpoint), it would've just been one of many cases where a guy hit a downed opponent and got a warning or point deduction.
                Good post. But how fair is it? Imagine Dirrell continuing on hurt and ending up being KOed in result of it. How good of a message would that pass? Wouldn't Abraham try that again? Watching it for the 3rd time i really think Dirrell was hurt. At first i thought he was reaching with his glove to check his nose for blood but he wasn't he reached his head and immediately fell down. I hope he's ok. In Vegas Abraham would be a suspended fighter right now.

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