My take on Dirrell Abraham

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  • El 7 Mares V.2
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    #11
    Originally posted by S.G.
    Instead of great, ultra-realistic acting (coming from a boxer of all people), could it not just have been a genuine reaction?

    Delayed reactions are not uncommon in boxing when you catch a brain rattling blow like that straight on the jaw, and the way he went down and started twitching doesn't seem like something someone would do if they were acting? Surely they would go for the safer and easier to pull off route of just laying there motionless? And then his interview and reaction when he got up? You could see him squinting because of the light and he clearly didn't know what the hell was going on.

    I think people have just already got a bad perception of Dirrell from the Froch fight and these acting accusations wouldn't be an issue if he hadn't pissed people off that night.
    C'mon homie, I know Dirrell is your boy but dude let's be real, that was acting at it's best, the delay reaction, him looking at the referee normaly and then all of the sudden collapsing and shaking his leg like a dog that was put to sleep, the whole crying and rambling nonsense, that was all an act homie. He felt he did enough to win, saw an oportunity to end the night early when things started getting rough and took it, he had fought a masterpiece, he threw it all away with that nonsense he pulled. On another note AA's punch wasn't all that hard, it was a glazing punch and wasn't even thrown that hard, AA's legs were too far apart to have any leverage on the punch to really cause that much damage, besides it was on the chin, not on his temple or back of the head to really cause that kind of dissorientation Dirrell was "experiencing". Real talk homeboy.

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    • V.WEBB
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      #12
      Originally posted by S.G.
      Instead of great, ultra-realistic acting (coming from a boxer of all people), could it not just have been a genuine reaction?

      Delayed reactions are not uncommon in boxing when you catch a brain rattling blow like that straight on the jaw, and the way he went down and started twitching doesn't seem like something someone would do if they were acting? Surely they would go for the safer and easier to pull off route of just laying there motionless? And then his interview and reaction when he got up? You could see him squinting because of the light and he clearly didn't know what the hell was going on.

      I think people have just already got a bad perception of Dirrell from the Froch fight and these acting accusations wouldn't be an issue if he hadn't pissed people off that night.
      I agree with you in the bold. Even if that incident would not have happened, and he won a UD they still would have found something to complain about.

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      • S.G.
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        #13
        Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
        C'mon homie, I know Dirrell is your boy but dude let's be real, that was acting at it's best, the delay reaction, him looking at the referee normaly and then all of the sudden collapsing and shaking his leg like a dog that was put to sleep,
        I don't recall him looking at the referee before going down, but if he did it was possibly down to the slip?

        Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
        On another note AA's punch wasn't all that hard, it was a glazing punch and wasn't even thrown that hard, AA's legs were too far apart to have any leverage on the punch to really cause that much damage, besides it was on the chin, not on his temple or back of the head to really cause that kind of dissorientation Dirrell was "experiencing". Real talk homeboy.
        The chin is known as the 'button' in boxing for a reason. Hitting it rattles your jaw and sends shockwaves right up to a huge mass of nerves on the side of your head. Hence why most of the most devastating KO's you'll find in boxing are caused by a punch right on the jaw.

        And we all know Abraham has murderous power and probably the heaviest hands in boxing today.

        Out of interest is there a good .gif of the knock out floating around? I'd love to have another proper look.
        Last edited by S.G.; 03-29-2010, 10:14 AM.

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        • El 7 Mares V.2
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          #14
          Originally posted by S.G.
          I don't recall him looking at the referee before going down, but if he did it was possibly down to the slip?


          The chin is known as the 'button' in boxing for a reason. Hitting it rattles your jaw and sends shockwaves right up to a huge mass of nerves on the side of your head. Hence why most of the most devastating KO's you'll find in boxing are caused by a punch right on the jaw.

          And we all know Abraham has murderous power and probably the heaviest hands in boxing today.

          Out of interest is there a good .gif of the knock out floating around? I'd love to have another proper look.
          A shot to the jaw usually knocks you out cold, which wasn't the case with Dirrell, there was a delay effect to it, with a lot of emphasis on the delay, which is normally what happens when you get hit on temple or the back of the head, this wasn't the case as AA hit him on the chin. Dirrell took his time to start to "feel" the punch, it was too iffy bro, I just don't buy it, he did act it pretty damn well though as it's clear he got a lot of people buying it. Like I said, Dirrell fought a masterpiece up to that point, it's a shame that fight had to end that way for both AA and Dirrell, the call was right and what AA did was ******ity based on desperation, but Dirrell was also guilty for tainting his own masterpiece.

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          • any craic lad?
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            #15
            Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
            A shot to the jaw usually knocks you out cold, which wasn't the case with Dirrell, there was a delay effect to it, with a lot of emphasis on the delay, which is normally what happens when you get hit on temple or the back of the head, this wasn't the case as AA hit him on the chin. Dirrell took his time to start to "feel" the punch, it was too iffy bro, I just don't buy it, he did act it pretty damn well though as it's clear he got a lot of people buying it. Like I said, Dirrell fought a masterpiece up to that point, it's a shame that fight had to end that way for both AA and Dirrell, the call was right and what AA did was ******ity based on desperation, but Dirrell was also guilty for tainting his own masterpiece.
            Listen i think the punch Abraham gave Dirrell did warrant the reaction Dirrell had took some good shots through out the fight was tired and then got punched when he wasnt expecting i think Dirrell was stunned but after watching the ending again Dirrells reaction when he recovers does seem to me a bit overboard like saying"let me breathe" and "stop talking" but whatever our opinions Abraham deserved his dq

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            • El 7 Mares V.2
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              #16
              Originally posted by any craic lad?
              Listen i think the punch Abraham gave Dirrell did warrant the reaction Dirrell had took some good shots through out the fight was tired and then got punched when he wasnt expecting i think Dirrell was stunned but after watching the ending again Dirrells reaction when he recovers does seem to me a bit overboard like saying"let me breathe" and "stop talking" but whatever our opinions Abraham deserved his dq
              And I've never questioned that, like I said it was the right call, but Dirrell sold it, if he wouldn't of acted out like that AA probably would of gotten a point deduction and Dirrell would of given 5 mintues to recover.

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                #17
                Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                And I've never questioned that, like I said it was the right call, but Dirrell sold it, if he wouldn't of acted out like that AA probably would of gotten a point deduction and Dirrell would of given 5 mintues to recover.
                Im sorta split while i do think the punch did enough to stun badly for a few seconds his reactions after were a bit strange

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                • hugh grant
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                  #18
                  All i can say is when Pac knocked out hatton in slo mo you can tell hatton was asleep as soon as the punch hit him. In slo mo, Dirrells is different. He is at least awake for a second and he finds a nice comfy postion to rest his head. Hatton would have liked a nice position as well, but he was asleep before he hit the floor.

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                  • Baracka Flocka
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                    #19
                    Look plain and simple Dirrell acting would be a huge mistake on his behalf

                    after getting hit there was no gurantee the fight would be stopped on a DQ if he faked being knocked out.


                    What would happen if he got hit, faked being knocked out and the Ref didn't stop it.

                    I swear you people just try to find a way to hate on someone, knowing good well the situation of "faking" would make no sense and easily backfire.

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