Serious Q to those who knows: Floyd-Mosley fight

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • sNiTcH
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Dec 2009
    • 1421
    • 121
    • 47
    • 7,876

    #21
    Originally posted by Biolink
    http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=26135

    Yes they already started testing last week
    did it happen last monday? any links? any news?

    Comment

    • PAKYO
      in the sandlands
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Oct 2009
      • 3805
      • 116
      • 73
      • 10,212

      #22
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      That's true. In fact, some would say that's what Pacquiao did (although only in words, certainly not with a signature). But it seems as if these two fighters care to honor their legal agreement and don't wish to be a victim of the harsh consequences they signed on for.
      I really hope they would honor everything what they signed but i object on the word you used "victim". You can't be considered a victim for breaching a contract.

      If you get ostracised for breaking a law or a contract, then you deserve it.

      You can only be considered a victim if you get maligned by some people with malicious rumors.

      Originally posted by M.I Truth ?
      Nevada state athletic commish already said they want to know the results and they are fine with the additional testing. By taking that stance its clear they will enforce any ban that a fighter receives for testing positive. The other state athletic commissions won't have a problem backing up Nevada. (Like Margarito being banned in CA and all other states enforcing the ban even though it wasn't issued there.)

      That's good enough for me, i hope other states would follow suit too and maybe later on, hope against hope, all other world boxing organization might adopt it too.

      Comment

      • tredh
        Undisputed Champion
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Apr 2007
        • 5949
        • 204
        • 3
        • 12,544

        #23
        Originally posted by sNiTcH
        did it happen last monday? any links? any news?
        Maybe they are holding the results for the 24/7 pre-fight shows. That makes sense to me since the testing and results will be a hot topic and get people to watch the show.

        Comment

        • PAKYO
          in the sandlands
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Oct 2009
          • 3805
          • 116
          • 73
          • 10,212

          #24
          Originally posted by tredh
          They have the power to do what was agreed upon and that is all the power they need. Nobody anywhere has any power to enforce upon someone something that a person did not agree to.
          I am pretty sure if 2 fighters wanted this type of testing it can be put into the contract that even if the fight was held outside of the USA or against a non-U.S. citizen whatever they agree upon those rules still apply.
          That's why they should at least publish what are the contents of that contract, the stipulations or whatever penalties that they can enforce and its scope. Will it be for one State only, the whole country or anywhere.

          This way, all doubts can be shut.

          Comment

          • tredh
            Undisputed Champion
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Apr 2007
            • 5949
            • 204
            • 3
            • 12,544

            #25
            Originally posted by PAKYO
            That's why they should at least publish what are the contents of that contract, the stipulations or whatever penalties that they can enforce and its scope. Will it be for one State only, the whole country or anywhere.

            This way, all doubts can be shut.
            Maybe you should try a FOIA request for the contract or just that part of the contract without the fighters personal information and monetary information. I would think the ban would be at least nationwide based on the test being done by a national testing agency.

            Comment

            • IMDAZED
              Fair but Firm
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • May 2006
              • 42644
              • 1,134
              • 1,770
              • 67,152

              #26
              Originally posted by PAKYO
              I really hope they would honor everything what they signed but i object on the word you used "victim". You can't be considered a victim for breaching a contract.

              If you get ostracised for breaking a law or a contract, then you deserve it.
              Totally agree. They certainly wouldn't be a victim if either tested positive.

              You can only be considered a victim if you get maligned by some people with malicious rumors.
              Yeah, that sucks as well but even worse is when you try to play the victim with lies, contradictions and excuses.

              Cheers.

              Comment

              • PAKYO
                in the sandlands
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 3805
                • 116
                • 73
                • 10,212

                #27
                Originally posted by tredh
                Maybe you should try a FOIA request for the contract or just that part of the contract without the fighters personal information and monetary information. I would think the ban would be at least nationwide based on the test being done by a national testing agency.
                Good advice but i don't think i have the capacity of doing that so i or we may just have to rely on the goodhearted people here who can or those who are privy of it to at least divulge only those parts, i'm sure there are some poster/s here who does or have knowledge of it. It could be a pretty standard stipulation.

                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Totally agree. They certainly wouldn't be a victim if either tested positive.


                Yeah, that sucks as well but even worse is when you try to play the victim with lies, contradictions and excuses.

                Cheers.
                We are digressing now with the issue here we might as well go back on track.

                Anyway, does anybody of you here have read the list of prohibited drugs as per WADA?

                That's quite an extensive list and although most of it is pretty alien to me, i read lots which i thought were pretty harmless like some of those pain relievers.

                Now since boxing is a physical sports, it's only natural that you will experience pain before, during and after the actual fight. Just imagine those sparring sessions done, each one will surely inflict some pain during the rounds.

                Now since those nerve pain blockers are prohibited, does that mean Floyd cannot take his usual pain reliever?

                Since that is not illegal during the fight, is it covered as well with the USADA and if found positive does that mean the fight with Shane will not happen anymore?

                Comment

                • PAKYO
                  in the sandlands
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3805
                  • 116
                  • 73
                  • 10,212

                  #28
                  Damn.

                  Until now there's still no news if ever there was a test and what the results are...

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  TOP