Lucian Bute vs. Andre Dirrell

[jrosales13]

What has Froch proved?

no one has singled there self out as the top guy. The top guy at 168 will be the winner of the super six. Bute isn't even in the discussion IMO. If he beats the winner, then i give him props, but he will be fighting nobodies for the next 2 years. So who gives a ****.

As of right now, how has a better resume and overall body of work at 168 then Bute?

[mike ruler]

There is no definite #1 @ 168 imo. Not Bute, not Dirrell, Ward or anybody. Right now, just about all of them are unknown quan******. The Super 6 will go a long way in weeding out the weak lol. TS said Dirrel was tailor made from Abraham, which may be true. But, Bute was tailor-made for Andrade. The only difference is Andrade had him in trouble at the end of the first fight. So it's not some crazy idea to think Dirrell can beat anyone.

[BoxingFanFirst]

As of right now, how has a better resume and overall body of work at 168 then Bute?

IMO, his resume is no better then Abrahams, Frochs, Dirrels, Wards, or Kesslers.. Thas just my opinion. Bute hasn't beaten any of the guys in the super six. So we don't know.

I think you could semi argue Dirrels resume over everyones if not for the loss to Froch, which I and many others felt he won.

If he was given that decision, he'd be the unanimous top SMW. Do you disagree?

[dc6112]

There is no definite #1 @ 168 imo. Not Bute, not Dirrell, Ward or anybody. Right now, just about all of them are unknown quan******. The Super 6 will go a long way in weeding out the weak lol. TS said Dirrel was tailor made from Abraham, which may be true. But, Bute was tailor-made for Andrade. The only difference is Andrade had him in trouble at the end of the first fight. So it's not some crazy idea to think Dirrell can beat anyone.

Bute gassed out as much as he was almost KO'd vs. Andrade in that first fight. Dirrell looked like he may have been falling into the same trap vs. Abraham before the fight got stopped

[The Great Shark]

There is no definite #1 @ 168 imo. Not Bute, not Dirrell, Ward or anybody. Right now, just about all of them are unknown quan******. The Super 6 will go a long way in weeding out the weak lol. TS said Dirrel was tailor made from Abraham, which may be true. But, Bute was tailor-made for Andrade. The only difference is Andrade had him in trouble at the end of the first fight. So it's not some crazy idea to think Dirrell can beat anyone.

You're misusing the phrase tailor made......lol

[mike ruler]

Bute gassed out as much as he was almost KO'd vs. Andrade in that first fight. Dirrell looked like he may have been falling into the same trap vs. Abraham before the fight got stopped

Maybe that's true. Or maybe Dirrell was going to stop Abraham. Who knows? That's just more of a testament to the unpredictability in this division. One of the best in boxing right now.

[SoldierWarrior]

There is no definite #1 @ 168 imo. Not Bute, not Dirrell, Ward or anybody. Right now, just about all of them are unknown quan******. The Super 6 will go a long way in weeding out the weak lol. TS said Dirrel was tailor made from Abraham, which may be true. But, Bute was tailor-made for Andrade. The only difference is Andrade had him in trouble at the end of the first fight. So it's not some crazy idea to think Dirrell can beat anyone.

Bute has a great heart, he was practically dead and out of it when he got up from the canvas against Andrade. He beat the count, even though the refs count was slow but Bute was way ahead of it if you count seconds. I believe he got up at 7 or 8 seconds. The fight was over because no time was left on the clock and thats where people say the contrioversity comes in.

I mean ppl say Bute wasn't fit to go on and the ref should have waved it off... But why? Their was no time left on the clock anyways. Their would have been time left on the clock if Andrade had stayed in his neutral corner and the ref didn't have to take the time to scream at him.

[jrosales13]

IMO, his resume is no better then Abrahams, Frochs, Dirrels, Wards, or Kesslers.. Thas just my opinion. Bute hasn't beaten any of the guys in the super six. So we don't know.

I think you could semi argue Dirrels resume over everyones if not for the loss to Froch, which I and many others felt he won.

If he was given that decision, he'd be the unanimous top SMW. Do you disagree?

I don't see how AA or Kessller or even Ward resume matches up to Bute? AA to wins at SMW are Taylor and Miranda. Ward two wins are Kessler and Miranda. How does those wins matches up against Bute wins? Is not even close.

Dirrell has a win against AA who has zero wins against elite SMW would agree? And, you want to give him the Froch win that is fine go ahead. Two great wins for Dirrell. Pretty good resume. I would say Bute never beat a fighter as good as those two. Even technically Dirrell only has one wind against the two. But, anyways has good wins in his resume. One against Alejandro Berrio who was champ and top 10 fighter at the time, he beat Andrade twice, the second time KO'd him in impressive fashion. He also beat Bika is more dominant version than Joe Calzaghe did. And, Bika is top 10 right now. Bute very quietly has good wins. And, he is NOT ducking these fighters. He was NOT invited to the super 6. Which is bull****. Really is not a super 6 without Bute bro.

[SoldierWarrior]

He also beat Bika is more dominant version than Joe Calzaghe did. And, Bika is top 10 right now. Bute very quietly has good wins. And, he is NOT ducking these fighters. He was NOT invited to the super 6. Which is bull****. Really is not a super 6 without Bute bro.

Bika is also contender winner, I picked him to win that and he did. Bikas a solid win for anyones resume.

[BoxingFanFirst]

I don't see how AA or Kessller or even Ward resume matches up to Bute? AA to wins at SMW are Taylor and Miranda. Ward two wins are Kessler and Miranda. How does those wins matches up against Bute wins? Is not even close.

Dirrell has a win against AA who has zero wins against elite SMW would agree? And, you want to give him the Froch win that is fine go ahead. Two great wins for Dirrell. Pretty good resume. I would say Bute never beat a fighter as good as those two. Even technically Dirrell only has one wind against the two. But, anyways has good wins in his resume. One against Alejandro Berrio who was champ and top 10 fighter at the time, he beat Andrade twice, the second time KO'd him in impressive fashion. He also beat Bika is more dominant version than Joe Calzaghe did. And, Bika is top 10 right now. Bute very quietly has good wins. And, he is NOT ducking these fighters. He was NOT invited to the super 6. Which is bull****. Really is not a super 6 without Bute bro.

I can't disagree with you. Im not all that impressed with the andrade wins persoanlly. Kessler exposed him as a bum, and kessler has been exposed as a bum who cant adjust. I know the triangle theory doesnt work but its all I got to go on.

Basically, my point is the SMW division is up in the air, and you could make many arguments on who is the best. I kinda believe not one guy in the division could beat all the top guys.