part-time MM fighter wins....is this another proof that boxing > MMA

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  • B-Money
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    #41
    Originally posted by HandSpeed303
    Oh lord!....

    How exactly?

    Pac does not fight once a year...Sometimes once every two...That was the type of stuff Oscar would pull..

    Now explain your Pac logic.
    do i really have to? puhlleeasse

    i just used pacquiao as an example. i could have said RJJ when he was rapping, or mayweather.

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    • HandSpeed303
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      #42
      Originally posted by B-Money
      do i really have to? puhlleeasse
      I sort of expected a responds like this... Good work!!

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        #43
        The entertainment value of MMA over boxing is very overrated. Most of the time these guys are wrestling on the ground. To me it is obviously a race thing in the US and I understand it. There are few to no major "white americans" at the top of the sport of boxing right now and a lot of these fans watch it to replace that void. It's a similar story of what happened to the NBA in the 70's. Don't get me wrong i'm not saying only white people watch MMA i'm just saying that most of the momentum of MMA comes from that dynamic. There is a lot of skill in MMA but most of the time you put a great athlete in there despite the advantages in training he'll just blow through the comp and I don't see that at the apex of the sport of boxing.

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        • DE100
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          #44
          Dont know if this guy is an example, but again it shows how people from other fields easily adapt to MMA, from wrestlers, Fake wrestlers, kick boxers, Ex/failed/retried Boxers, Long time street fighters, all find of martial artist, NFL players, baseball players, etc... And when I say adapt I mean They get put into the spot light and promoted and put on PPV's by MMA so fast. Its like if your athletic or strong and put in a strong 2 years of training you can have some kind success in MMA. Be in your Mid to late 20's and try that **** in any other sport (Baseball, Football (both), Boxing, swimming, tennis, etc...) you're going to fail bad. Its very very hard to adapt and transition to other sports unless you are a super gifted athlete already off top. Its like Lesner trying to get in the NFL he failed, tried MMA... Instant contender and superstar, what other sport could he have pulled some **** like that off? You have so many Athletes in MMA that failed in the original sport of their choice. And saw MMA as the next/last option.
          Last edited by DE100; 03-28-2010, 02:44 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by B-Money
            do i really have to? puhlleeasse

            i just used pacquiao as an example. i could have said RJJ when he was rapping, or mayweather.
            Those things were never serious. Oscar was notorius for fighting only once a year. Sometimes once every 2. That is a part time boxer.

            Cause Pac is interested in politics doesn't mean he is part time. That is my point. He still fight 2 to 3 times a year. That may change now, but till then, he is not partime...Bad example.

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              #46
              Originally posted by HandSpeed303
              Those things were never serious. Oscar was notorius for fighting only once a year. Sometimes once every 2. That is a part time boxer.

              Cause Pac is interested in politics doesn't mean he is part time. That is my point. He still fight 2 to 3 times a year. That may change now, but till then, he is not partime...Bad example.
              since he brought up oscar as a part-time boxer. i brought that up.

              c'mon. im talking about a fulltime job just like that MMA guy that beat mir. he was a fulltime engineer.

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                #47
                Originally posted by DE100
                Dont know if this guy is an example, but again it shows how people from other fields easily adapt to MMA, from wrestlers, Fake wrestlers, kick boxers, Ex/failed/retried Boxers, Long time street fighters, all find of martial artist, NFL players, baseball players, etc... And when I say adapt I mean They get put into the spot light and promoted and put on PPV's by MMA so fast. Its like if your athletic or strong and put in a strong 2 years of training you can have some kind success in MMA. Be in your Mid to late 20's and try that **** in any other sport (Baseball, Football (both), Boxing, swimming, tennis, etc...) you're going to fail bad. Its very very hard to adapt and transition to other sports unless you are a super gifted athlete already off top. Its like Lesner trying to get in the NFL failed, tried MMA... Instant contender and superstar, what other sport could he have pulled some **** like that off? You have so many Athletes in MMA that failed in the original sport of their choice. And saw MMA as the next/last option.
                This is exactly what I was getting at.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DE100
                  Dont know if this guy is an example, but again it shows how people from other fields easily adapt to MMA, from wrestlers, Fake wrestlers, kick boxers, Ex/failed/retried Boxers, Long time street fighters, all find of martial artist, NFL players, baseball players, etc... And when I say adapt I mean They get put into the spot light and promoted and put on PPV's by MMA so fast. Its like if your athletic or strong and put in a strong 2 years of training you can have some kind success in MMA. Be in your Mid to late 20's and try that **** in any other sport (Baseball, Football (both), Boxing, swimming, tennis, etc...) you're going to fail bad. Its very very hard to adapt and transition to other sports unless you are a super gifted athlete already off top. Its like Lesner trying to get in the NFL he failed, tried MMA... Instant contender and superstar, what other sport could he have pulled some **** like that off? You have so many Athletes in MMA that failed in the original sport of their choice. And saw MMA as the next/last option.
                  herschel walker also tried MMa. and he won too.

                  granted it maybe against a scrub. but walker is like 50 yrs old. lol

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                    #49
                    Carwin is a beast dude. He's 6'5 and he's got vicious striking, and he's also a good wrestler man.. Carwin is a bad dude. Can't wait to see him fight my boy Brock!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by B-Money
                      since he brought up oscar as a part-time boxer. i brought that up.

                      c'mon. im talking about a fulltime job just like that MMA guy that beat mir. he was a fulltime engineer.
                      I know what you were saying and why you said it...

                      It was just a bad example. Oscar has been a partime boxer for a while now. That wasn't a bad example.

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