Pressure behind the jab is how Mosley can beat Floyd

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  • BoxerDood
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
    Pressure behind the jab is how Mosley could! beat Floyd, not to say he will but....

    When people talk about applying pressure they tend to think of the fighter getting on the opponents chest and letting his hands go, thats not going to work with Mayweather as his defense is more effective the closer you get to him, what you have to do is stay at distance a pressure him from behind the jab, that is how ODLH was effective against him, by pressuring him from behind the jab, anyone see Brian Viloria's fight with Tamara? well that is how Mosley needs to pressure Mayweather ( the way Tamara did to Viloria), now i know ODLH has a much better jab than Shane, who's jab is non exist at times, but if he wants a chance to win this might be his only shot imo, because i dont see him getting through consistently if he just tries to **** away intight, not unless the ref allows him to man handle Floyd and assert his superior physical strength.
    Its possible, but the thing is Floyd was able to stop DLH's jab by using his own. This can be even easier to do against Mosley because his is not as good and pretty predictable. Although his arms are much longer than DLH's so that could make a difference, but then again Floyd's gameplan will have focus on timing and inches so that could be the major difference in their jabbing.

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #12
      i think it was already said but shane mosely has no jab. he wont have any luck with the piss poor jab he throws. judah had a wayyy better jab and he threw it consistenly in a southpaw stance againt may and it did very little for him. odlh couldnt even get his off...if the jab is a gonna be a factor in this fight, its gonna be because mayweather used it, not because mosely did.

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      • brick wall
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Its a shame Shane doesnt have a jab then...
        jab is the best weapon for counterpunchers like floyd. shane has no choice but to learn how to use it effectively. shane's best punch is his right cross but it's not enough.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #14
          Dont get me wrong i agree Mosley has a poor jab but i just think he might be better served at least attempting to use this game plan than trying to break down the door on Mayweather.

          You have to pick Mayweather's lock not crack it open imo.

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          • HitmanHattonAY
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            #15
            Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
            Mosleys jab isnt strong at all, he just uses his weak left jab to set up his wild right over the top.
            yer, that right arm over lol

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              #16
              Originally posted by Blubba
              Cotto could bring it with the jab and put pressure behind it.
              cotto would have gotten schooled, as simple as that

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              • ILLuminato
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                #17
                Shane just has to be a total BAMF in this fight. He's great as using distance if he uses it well in this fight he will win and possibly ko Floyd.

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                • fabie
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                  #18
                  TAKEN FROM YOUR PREVIOUS THREAD, I POSTED THIS (sorry, I am too lazy to retype these many words)

                  Mayweather is a phenomenally gifted boxer coupled with his techniques...

                  I think that no one can hit him:

                  • from a distance, meaning from a jab range simply because of his footwork while his positioning/hand placement/techniques wouldn't allow for an opponent (orthodox) to throw his RIGHT CROSS.

                  It is too telepathically obvious for Mayweather because he can:

                  • SHOULDER ROLL (with the rear hand parry)
                  • FADE
                  • DUCK
                  • move to his lateral left or right
                  • move backwards

                  Having said that...MOSLEY can't use the typical 1-2 (LEFT JAB-RIGHT CROSS) from a typical range. For that to connect there has to be a "bridge"....something transitional.

                  MAYWEATHER is susceptible of getting hit from SOUTHPAW's LEFT CROSS (see JUDAH fight) though obviously it has to be well-timed. I think that LEFT HOOKS (not from the jab range) is of another....meaning from a close range.

                  The main key is the "bridge" (see JEET KUNE DO)

                  Mosley's Left Hooks are not tight either, he brings it too wide or his right crosses. Having said that, I think that it would be hard or very difficult to time a LEFT on Mayweather.

                  HOW THEN?

                  MAYWEATHER is a master at countering his opponent's left jab with a simple:

                  • half-step (back) then with his accurate RIGHT CROSS then ducking or rolling underneath it. (See Marquez fight where it is more accentuated since Marquez is too slow for him).

                  Therefore it is highly contingent for MOSLEY to draw MAYWEATHER to throw his RIGHT CROSS then:

                  • do a lateral movement to the left and execute a LEFT HOOK to the body and/or LEFT HOOK to the head.

                  But that would be very difficult since MAYWEATHER is a counter puncher with his RIGHT CROSS.

                  Another one I see is MOSLEY's LEAD RIGHTS just to offset the typical and obvious 1-2 (left jab and right cross). LEAD RIGHTs then followed with the LEFT HOOK.

                  And so with the ever elusive MAYWEATHER these punches should be well-timed and followed up with a combination to bring him down. Odds are very slim but still there for MOSLEY.

                  My best bet is Pacquiao being an unorthodox (Southpaw) and his high-volume/high pressure style but still not an easy task.

                  So how do I see this fight?

                  • If the typical Mosley vs Mayweather...I see a UD for Mayweather. Mosley has to have the unpredictable footwork, lateral movement and a countering LEFTs (and rights) to catch Mayweather flatfooted.

                  MOSLEY MUST CUT OFF THE RING to Mayweather's RIGHT (past his right cross) while also CUTTING Mayweather's LEFT to get away from his crosses and his lunging LEFT HOOKS.

                  Therefore the CUT RIGHT or CUT LEFT should be quick, decisive and with combinations of punches to offset MAYWEATHER's balance. Something that Pacquiao had in his attributes.

                  But a well-timed LEFT HOOK and CROSS can drop MAYWEATHER seeing that MOSLEY is that good.

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                  • Roxas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Shanes jab is one of his worst punches. Its a flicking jab that Floyd can see coming a mile away and he will counter easily.
                    lol thats exactly right these ppl understand nothing about boxing. Mosley has no jab it;s a pitter patter range finder that crumbles in comparison to DLH's much superior jab expect right hand counters over the top newbies....

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                    • fabie
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Roxas
                      lol thats exactly right these ppl understand nothing about boxing. Mosley has no jab it;s a pitter patter range finder that crumbles in comparison to DLH's much superior jab expect right hand counters over the top newbies....
                      this invites Mayweather to open up and punch. Therefore it is also highly contingent on Mosley's counterpunching ability to hit Mayweather (which is a very tall order).

                      Please see my posting above.

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